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ipnonlast Friday at 4:50 AM7 repliesview on HN

Don't you think there is a market for people who want services that have provable privacy even if it costs 1,000 times more? It's not as big a segment as Dropbox but I imagine it's there.


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PeterisPlast Friday at 3:43 PM

FHE solves privacy-from-compute-provider and doesn't affect any other privacy risks of the services. The trivial way to get privacy from the compute provider is to run that compute yourself - we delegate compute to cloud services for various reasonable efficiency and convenience reasons, but a 1000-fold less efficient cloud service usually isn't competitive with just getting a local device that can do that.

bawolfflast Friday at 8:56 AM

If we are talking 1000x more latency, that is a pretty hard sell.

Something that normally takes 30 seconds now takes over 8 hours.

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poly2itlast Friday at 4:55 AM

???

For the equivalent of $500 in credit you could self host the entire thing!

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landl0rdlast Friday at 5:40 AM

For LLM inference, the market that will pay $20,000 for what is now $20 is tiny.

mahmoudimuslast Friday at 5:08 AM

there is, it's called governments. however this technology is so slow that using it in mission critical systems (think communication / coordinates during warfare) that it is not feasible IMO.

the parent post is right, confidential compute is really what we've got.

taericlast Friday at 2:34 PM

Honestly, no? Unless you get everyone using said services, then a market that is only viable to people trying to hide bad behavior becomes the place you look for people doing bad things?

This is a large part of why you have to convince people to hide things even if "they have nothing to hide."

oakwhizlast Friday at 5:51 AM

For most this would mean only specially treating a subset of all the sensitive data they have.