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Zolomon11/04/20258 repliesview on HN

This is not true, this change is a recent phenomenon, I believe it came into effect sometime around 2021-2023 (maybe earlier even). I believe it changed when OpenAI showed the value of data.

Before, there was no problem using Instagram or Twitter while not logged in. Now there is a dark pattern that forces you to create an account, or log in.


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mattmanser11/04/2025

Instagram's been a pita to use without a login for years, they've recently got even worse though.

dylan60411/04/2025

This is my recollection as well when they all realized they were feeding the bots that the free use became broken

jelder11/04/2025

My recollection is that this happened pretty much immediately after Twitter became X.

saagarjha11/05/2025

No, it was a test by some misguided PM who was looking at her signups metric and not much else. It rolled out, everyone hated it, it got rolled back after some senior people complained. When Elon took over they turned the feature back on and then evidently rewrote it to be even more annoying and we have what is in place today. Source: my comments against it are probably in Slack somewhere if Elon is still paying for that

KronisLV11/04/2025

That’s roughly when I stopped opening Twitter links, I still sometimes see posts from that platform, but mostly just as screenshots and with the discussions elsewhere. I don’t care for their dark patterns.

hnlmorg11/04/2025

People already knew the value of data long before LLMs were popularised and web scraping has been a thing since the very beginnings of the web.

Why you’re describing isn’t a recent phenomenon. Not even remotely.

Facebook has never allowed people read only views to their platform. And Expert Stack Overflow like Quora used the same dark patterns you described too.

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jeroenhd11/04/2025

Instagram has always redirected me to a login page. Twitter only did after Elon and his friends went batshit ruining the website.

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nxor11/04/2025

Best comment.