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thangalintoday at 8:18 AM1 replyview on HN

Neato's D-Series Botvac just works (e.g., BVD8-SD/HP). No Bluetooth. No cloud. No Wi-Fi. Zero network connectivity required. Had mine about 10 years. Replaced the battery once, probably due for another one. Still cleans well.

I don't understand the appeal of having local appliances bound to the fate of network services.


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ctztoday at 8:35 AM

I have a Neato D650 which I assume meets that classification and is covered by the service withdrawal, it is now pretty degraded -- no notifications, no mapping, no keep-out zones.

No notifications means if it gets stuck it stays there.

No mapping means if it doesn't fully clean the space (eg, a door is closed) then I have no way of knowing without baby-sitting it.

No keep-out zones means every clean involves carefully preparing the space to hang up trailing wires out of the way -- previously I just had some keep-outs near the wires and that worked perfectly.

Without all these features I have stopped using it; it is quicker to just use a stick vacuum.

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