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chistevtoday at 10:43 AM4 repliesview on HN

Something I don't understand. What's the point of obfuscation if ultimately you can be caught when you try to convert it to fiat? If I have Btc and I convert it to monero to prevent tracking, how do I get it back to money in my bank account without being traceable?


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matheusmoreiratoday at 12:41 PM

The idea is to not convert it into fiat. Create a parallel economy where monero is the actual currency, not some intermediary currency. Price things in monero.

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nunobritotoday at 3:05 PM

The point is being like a submarine: nobody really knows where you are moving (transactions) and where you will surface (which other crypto or fiat).

On the example you give, large majority of people just pay and accept payments using monero natively. When you are talking about large amount of money, then it is worth a visit to places like El Salvador where you have a bank account with BTC. The conversion tends to take place in exchanges outside 1st world supervision and from El Salvador you can convert BTC to other currencies according to the exchange values or just use it with a credit card.

If you want to convert smaller amounts in Europe without tracing, mostly a matter of settling the transactions with small providers albeit you should be prepared to pay a fee between 20% to 30% as commission for the service.

m00dytoday at 10:53 AM

Well, what you're asking about is basically a business. Most folks make bank just by setting up that kind of circle. I'd suggest reading up on front businesses like luxury restaurants that sit empty most of the time. it's such a classic play, everyone knows it. If you've got BTC and want to get it back into your bank account, hit me up anytime.

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danlugo92today at 11:52 AM

Bitcoin's traceability ruins its fungibility.

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