alt Hacker NewsModern LLMs could be like the equivalent of those steam powered toys the Romans had in their time. Steam tech went through a long winter before finally being fully utilized for the Industrial Revolution. We’ll probably never see the true AI revolution in our lifetime, only glimpses of what could be, through toys like LLMs.
What we should underscore though, is that even if there is a new AI winter, the world isn’t going back to what it was before AI. This is it, forever.
Generations ahead will gaslight themselves into thinking this AI world is better, because who wants to grow up knowing they live in a shitty era full of slop? Don’t believe it.
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The development of LLM's required access to huge amounts of decent training data.
It could very well that the current generation of AI has poisoned the well for any future endeavors of creating AI. You can't trivially filter out the AI slop and humans are less likely to make their handcrafted content freely available for training. In fact violating GPL code to train models on it might be ruled to be illegal as well generally stricter rules on which data you are allowed to use for training.
We might have reached a local optimum that is very difficult to escape from. There might be a long, long AI winter ahead of us, for better or worse.
> the world isn’t going back to what it was before AI. This is it, forever.
I feel this so much. I though my longing for the pre-smartphone days was bad but damn we have lost so much.
LLMs are useful tools, but certainly have big limitations.
I think we'll continue to see anything be automated that can be automated in a way that reduces head count. So you have the dumb AI as a first line of defense and lay off half the customer service you had before.
In the meantime, fewer and fewer jobs (especially entry level), a rising poor class as the middle class is eliminated and a greater wealth gap than ever before. The markets are going to also collapse from this AI bubble. It's just a matter of when.
The development of steam technology is a great metaphor. The basic understanding of steam as a thing that could yield some kind of mechanical force almost certainly predated even the Romans. That said, it was the synthesis of other technologies with these basic concepts that started yielding really interesting results.
Put another way, the advent of industrialized steam power wasn't so much about steam per se, but rather the intersection of a number of factors (steam itself obviously being an important one). This intersection became a lot more likely as the pace of innovation in general began accelerating with the Enlightenment and the ease with which this information could be collected and synthesized.
I suspect that the LLM itself may also prove to be less significant than the density of innovation and information of the world it's developed in. It's not a certainty that there's a killer app on the scale of mechanized steam, but the odds of such significant inventions arguably increase as the basics of modern AI become basic knowledge for more and more people.