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prescriptivistyesterday at 8:21 PM3 repliesview on HN

There's something fundamentally strange about how prices have spiked and inventory has tightened since Covid. Where I live in rural New England, prices are up 50–100% in five years. And this is on pretty poor quality homes. Yes, low interest rates led to a surge in buying and bidding wars that spiked the baseline, but when people say "the real problem is there isn't enough housing" that feels incomplete to me. Of course supply has been an issue for a while, but home prices nearly doubling in five years doesn't look like a normal supply story -- it's not as if we suddenly created 20-50% more qualified buyers in that time. I guess the lack of churn, with people hanging onto those sweet 3% mortgages much longer than usual, is probably part of it. But I really don't have an answer for the current state of home buying. I make great money but if I was to buy a house the quality of the house I got in 2018 with the same % down payment I would be looking at over 40% of my take home going to a mortgage, PMI and taxes.


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munificentyesterday at 8:34 PM

> it's not as if we suddenly created 20-50% more qualified buyers in that time.

We don't create buyers quickly, but mobility means that a large number of buyers can show up in one concentrated area much more quickly than housing can adapt.

One piece of the US real estate puzzle is that automation and outsourced killed agriculture and manufacturing jobs. Those are the kinds of jobs that have some natural incentive to be spread across the US. Ag, because farms literally take up a lot of space and are spread out, and manufacturing because factories tend to be close to raw materials, ports, or other local resources.

When you get rid of those jobs and replace them with information work, you create a feedback loop with no dampening in it. People want to go where the most jobs are, so they move to the cities. Businesses want to open where the most workers are, so they start companies in cities.

The next thing you know, all the small towns are filled with dirt cheap empty houses because there are no jobs. Meanwhile, every metro area is bursting at the seams.

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nradovyesterday at 8:24 PM

Prices spiked in large part because the government printed an enormous number of dollars since 2020, thus triggering asset price inflation.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL

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ww520today at 1:56 AM

House value has gone up along with other assets since Covid because a lot of money have been printed. A trillion here and a trillion there, pretty soon we're talking real inflation. Real estate is the real inflation hedge.