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MandieDyesterday at 10:32 PM0 repliesview on HN

My scheduled C-section (which my insurer likely didn't question me about because I was 40 and have other health issues) plus three-night hospital stay was about 5,000 EUR, all paid by my health insurance (private, so I know that 5,000 was the "retail" price), in a fairly prosperous part of Germany.

Not that the German health system isn't facing down some of the same demographic issues the rest of the well-off world is, but comparing wait times for specialists now that I'm on public (more like, very strictly regulated) insurance with my dad back in Texas on a combination of Medicare and supposedly good supplemental plan, I'm still in a better situation.

A strong public/heavily regulated independent insurers system gives the private insurers enough competition to keep prices in check.

Plus, I don't know of an insurer here, public or private, who also owns clinics or employs physicians, and they don't own pharmacies.