Very interesting, if they indeed are after public health and yet don't talk about organic vs. sprayed produce.
Its unfortunate the way modern politics has gone. I see this site and am immediately suspicious. What bullshit is there? What ulterior motive should I be concerned about?
Rather than reading it, assuming it was fact based science. Maybe not the best because governments never get things 100%.... but at least able to trust it. Now specifically because this is RFK's MAHA world, I assume everything on this site is a lie.
After reading through it I don't see anything terrible or stupidly over the top. Yes, more proteins and vegetables good, less heavily processed foods.
The website is beautiful, but I'm so tired of landing pages that require me to scroll for eons to see all the content, chunk by chunk. It's aesthetically gorgeous, but painfully impractical.
It's a reverse funnel system
Make Jerkey Without Sugar Again!
i dont have the expertise to say whether this is good info but its nice to see other folks saying it is. but a government website being one of these scrollbar hacks is atrocious
Bravo. I never thought I'd live to see the day. The old pyramid was so outdated.
Unreadable clunky website.
> The new Pyramid > Protein, Dairy & Healthy Fats
(shows picture of butter)
I'm sorry to say this, but butter, even if delicious, is not a "healthy fat". It's "less unhealthy" than margarine, and perhaps that's what they are going for.
Healthy fats are Olive oil (especially extra virgin), avocado, nuts, seeds and fatty fish.
Let's see what the people who want to Make Mumps Great Again are recommending today?
64oz rare porterhouse breakfasts is it.
Neat.
Beef <= cows <= corn <= fertilizer <= oil. It always circles back to oil.
Regardless of who's right or wrong, who's more corrupt or not, in this case, "The Needs of the Many Outweigh the Needs of the Few," because in the long run, the US population's health will be better off overall, as the industry shift from ultra processed foods and sugars outweighs saturated fat risks if guidelines are followed moderately.
companies and special interest groups run your country
Red meat is good for you. Animal fat is good for you.
Sugar is the real enemy.
Backed by Science*
This is Trump's MAGA diet, a replacement for the lame liberal DEI diet of the Biden administration. Not hyperbole, the web site states all this explicitly if you click through to this link: <https://cdn.realfood.gov/Scientific%20Report.pdf>
The Scientific Report mentions Trump 4 times, so I looked up Trump's diet. Seems he eats a lot of McDonalds takeout and drinks a lot of diet coke. It seems to me that Trump's diet is an exemplary and healthy diet that follows these new recommendations, which prioritizes foods such as beef, oils and animal fat (including full fat dairy) and potatoes. Cheeseburger and fries, and the diet coke avoids added sugar, while promoting hydration. Trump might be prickly about past criticism of his diet; now he can point to these recommendations.
This site is infuriating. The information seems banal and better than the previous pyramid, though flawed.
It is quite stupid to say that the US is sick because of processed food while ignoring poverty, education, and insurance. The messaging should not include that but what can you expect?
The war on protein feels as made up as the war on Christmas…
Terrible website in both usability and conveying information but it looks nice. Info is good, Americans do need to eat healthier and these are good guidelines.
Also was this AI generated because Americans dont know what a Kilogram is and wouldnt use it to measure bodyweight.
Tax Fake Food?
This is OK
Bullying Europe but hoping to live like Europeans.
Site is beautiful. The current food is fucking trash, the new food guidelines make sense. Good work.
> America is sick. The data is clear.
Can we inform dictionaries and encyclopaedia that data is now a mass noun and it is considered archaic to use data as a plural of datum?
One thing I would add to this site is to avoid seed oils like the plague. PUFA is in almost everything that is processed, and it absolutely wrecks havoc on your metabolism.
Project 2025 was strongly against active travel, yet increased car dependency is one of the main factors in poor health in the USA.
every single gov website is being hijacked for propaganda
one by one
completely untrustworthy
I fully expect weather .gov at some point to be taken over, nothing is sacred with these a-holes
https://404media.co/dhs-is-lying-to-you-about-ice-shooting-a...
impeach them all
Also, don't vaccinate your kids against measles.
And if you happen to run over a bear cub, drive it to Manhattan and dump it in Central Park.
I hate websites that scroll like this. It’s so… clunky.
Is there any effort to make real food more affordable for most Americans?
Is there any proof that "much of chronic disease is linked to diet and lifestyle"?
Is our bar so low that we give RFK credit for saying "eat real food" which everyone knows, while cutting vaccination recommendations, defunding public health and making our health care worse? The implication that chronic illness is a "lifestyle" problem is victim blaming, sure you can point to a lot of individual cases where this is the case, but the main issue is access to good, affordable food. I'm convinced the one thing that ties the varied MAGA coalition together is a belief that the problems of modern America are moral failings of the masses. Many of the coalition truly believe it, and the people rigging the system are more than happy to fund them to distract from their looting, just as the sugar industry funded blaming fat for obesity.
I don't like to be this righteous on HN, but RFK wagging his finger about how "diet and lifestyle" causes most chronic disease, which is where 90% healthcare costs go to, just upsets me. If you truly believe that, then who cares if people suffer from chronic disease. Go ahead and gut public health and the CDC, most people with chronic diseases brought it upon themselves! Doctor says "Eat Real Food".
The only hope I have is that he's committed enough to battle lobbyists and introduce more food regulations, like he did with food dye. That's the tough work, against entrenched power structures and real risk. Until then, it's all just talk.
That is one atrocious website. Couldnt get past the second fake-slide, so slow and broken it was
War on protein? I don't know of any war on protein, but I do live in a more liberal area than the rest of the country. Considering this is coming from a more conservative government, I wonder what war on protein is going on in conservative areas of the country. Why were conservatives having a war on protein?
Anyone else disappointed because they didn't show the Swanson Pyramid Of Greatness?
Geeze that's bad! Can we just show the pyramid and some text?
Cool, yet another pyramid that people will debate. There a lot of different diets. Try them and judge which ones work best for you based on your goals and which foods are available to you. A lot of people in the United States struggle with caloric restriction i.e. not which foods, but how much.
FTFY: Eat Real Food -- if you can afford it and have time to.
But I'm sure the Administration will accompany this release with various programs to boost access for the bottom 50% to fresh produce, meat, etc. right?
Good message, shitty website.
> For decades we've been misled by guidance that prioritized highly-processed food
WTF are they talking about?
wow, it's almost like this makes sense
.gov
Uhm... Skip
let me first post a shallow, obligatory complaint about the unreadability of this submission due to egregious scrolljacking.
for those interested without getting angered by weird scroll behavior, see below.
too bad there's such a focus on animal protein/products, which isn't all that good if you want to design a world-wide society of billions of people that's going to last into the next 1000 years. seems like at least half of the pyramid was designed by Big Agro lobbyists. other than that, i guess anything's better than what the average american eats now.
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Protein, Dairy, & Healthy Fats: We are ending the war on protein. Every meal must prioritize high-quality, nutrient-dense protein from both animal and plant sources, paired with healthy fats from whole foods such as eggs, seafood, meats, full-fat dairy, nuts, seeds, olives, and avocados.
Protein target: 1.2–1.6 grams per kilogram of body weight per day.
Vegetables & Fruits: Vegetables and fruits are essential to real food nutrition. Eat a wide variety of whole, colorful, nutrient-dense vegetables and fruits in their original form, prioritizing freshness and minimal processing.
Vegetables: 3 servings per day. Fruits: 2 servings per day.
Whole Grains: Whole grains are encouraged. Refined carbohydrates are not. Prioritize fiber-rich whole grains and significantly reduce the consumption of highly processed, refined carbohydrates that displace real nourishment.
Target: 2–4 servings per day.
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What does 1 serving here mean?????????