alt Hacker NewsI am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk
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In theory, this is why there should be competition in industry, because it removes the capability of a single large actor to be able to control the government's access to things.
Oddly, though, it seems like that should solve this problem as well. I'm not sure why the Department of Defense insists on Anthropic's models in particular; one would think one of the other players, at the very least least xAI, would be willing to step in and provide the capability Anthropic doesn't want to provide.
I already loved Claude models, and this makes me even more eager to use them.
Last I heard, it's still legally called the Department of Defense.
But anyway, I guess the question is, will any other big AI companies stand with them? It's what needs to happen, but I am not hopeful.
This is the most unhinged thing yet, after all the previous unhinged things.
The whole thing is fascinating. In my heart of heart, in principle, I want models to be essentially unrestricted, but I still find it somewhat problematic that government thinks it can say: you will make adjust your product to match our exact expectations even if you don't sign an updated contract with us. Odd stuff. I know they are trotting out War powers, but.. well.. we are not at war ( at least not yet or at least not yet officially declared.. ).
Insanely stupid and petty decision. I just left voicemails for all my members of Congress urging them to fight back. I hope the DoW loses this one.
Help me understand the line Anthropic is drawing in the sand?
Don't get me wrong i'm glad they are unwilling to do certain things...
but to me it also seems a little ironic that Anthropic literally is partnered with Palantir which already mass surveills the US. Claude was used in the operation in Venezuala.
Their line not to cross seems absurdly thin?
Or there is something mega scary thats already much worse they were asked to do which we dont know about I guess.
It seems like some comments here are from merged threads AND front-dated?
Makes for very confusing reading when comments from "1 hour ago" are actually on preceding events from earlier, before TFA news (announcement of designation).
mods: Especially in sensitive and rapidly developing situations like this, please don't mess with timestamps of comments. It's effectively revisionism.
So the government said, We need y’all to flip on the Minority Report and the Terminator modes or we’ll put you out of business… cool
https://xcancel.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538
Government: We will destroy any company that refuses to create the Torment Nexus
Google and Amazon both partner with them and sell to the US Government... so does this mean they can't run on Google or AWS infrastructure?
USA is trying to use IA for something so evil that a for profit company is risking to loose a lot of money and even close. Nobody are allowed to know what these evil things are.
And people here are debating legalese...
The most horrifying thing is this means that they’re trying to spy en masse on all US citizens.
Once the democrats are in the oval office again can they label palantir a supply chain risk? Is there anything stopping the administations red or blue from shutting down any company that doens't agree 100% with them politically
I'm convinced the only possible good end game here is if this leads to a showdown where GenAI is just made illegal full stop.
I read the tweet and honestly thought I was reading parody.
It almost is parody that a former Fox News host is the SECRETARY OF WAR.
What's with the Republicans. Do they want a strong or a weak government? I can't tell anymore.
Its one thing to say "we cannot abide by these terms, so let's part ways", and its another entirely to respond this drastically. The Trump administration will look back on this decision as the most consequential in their efforts to win the 2026 midterms and Republican efforts in 2028. This is a $400B+ American company that has significant partial ownership from Amazon, Google, and other private equity sources; they just made serious enemies in SV, many of whom supported Trump in his 2024 election victory.
You would have to believe that an AI model would be 100% correct in its decision to discern an enemy from a civilian. So an intelligent lunatic, or an uninformed lunatic politician
Hey Anthropic, Europe welcome you!
So I'm very curious, assuming this happens and is later found to be an illegal order - will Anthropic have rights to redress (ie: monetary compensation)?
Because that could be absolutely staggering.
This is getting silly guys. All on the same team. Need to have a c.t.j. meeting.
Working with the government is typically a huge pain in the ass unless you have a lot of friends on the inside. It's not hard to do the math when you you dealing with a government whose acting incredibly oppositional.
Wild that not wanting to support fully autonomous weaponry…yet…is the sane take here.
"strong-arm the United States military into submission - a cowardly act"
How going against the most powerful army on Earth is coward?
I can't seem to find what being designated a "Supply-Chain Risk to National Security" implies from a legal standpoint. From what I can find, it doesn't seem to be a formal legal status. Curious if anyone knows more.
I had the co-founder of Levels and current head of the US Treasury Sam Corcos reach out to me a few weeks ago for a job. I was initially kind of excited because I had really wanted to work for the Treasury a couple years ago, so I took the phone call with him.
He called me and he seemed like a nice enough guy, but I realized that he's one of the DOGE/Elon acolytes and he started talking about how he's "fixing" the Treasury and that every engineer is apparently supposed to use Claude for everything.
It would have been a considerable pay downgrade which wouldn't necessarily be a dealbreaker but being managed by DOGE would be, but mostly relevant is that I found it kind of horrifying that we're basically trusting the entire world's bank to be "fixed" with Claude Code. It's one thing when your ad platform or something is broken, but if Claude fucks something up in the Treasury that could literally start a war. We're going to "fix" all the code with a bunch of mediocre code that literally no one on earth actually understands and that realistically no one is auditing [1].
If they're going to "fix" all the Treasury code with stuff generated by Claude, I'm not sure they will have a choice but to stick with it, because very it seems very likely to me that it will be incomprehensible to anything but Claude.
[1] Be honest, a lot of AI generated code is not actually being reviewed by humans; I suspect that a lot of the AI code that's being merged is still basically being rubber-stamped.
Don't worry, they will be seized by the government soon. Sounds crazy right. Not that far from the headline though, that would sound insane a mere 18 months ago.
This is just an authoritarian state, wanting to use AI to implement something almost certainly anti freedom. We have to be honest about that.
The next question, what person wants to send all their personal questions to whichever AI lab does help the government do domestic surveillance
Anthropic should become an actual supply chain risk and move its HQ to China now, lol.
It'll get cleared up.
TACO
If anything, isn’t this admitting that the government thinks Anthropic has better technology than OpenAI, Grok, etc?
Sounds like I should upgrade to the $100 subscription in support on Anthropic.
The US is such a shit show. Personally I hope this doesn't affect Anthropic's growth and development because I quite enjoy using their products and see them evolve.
Sounds very much like "Department of War" designating humans a supply-chain risk.
Will be interesting to see how quickly it becomes clear that most of Anthropic's competitors are stealing from them.
The real question: did he have Claude write this for him?
I am directing my Department of Peace to designate Anthropic as a Supply-Chain Risk to Fascism.
I have just purchased a chunk of extra usage credit. I encourage my peers to do the same. Let's send a message to those that work forces.
Look folks when he's (trump) that stuck on stupid, he's right and you're wrong. Class it up, people! Class it up!
it's funny that this is being framed as big tech vs us government, when in reality this move is probably strongly influenced by the desire to help openai and other big tech against anthropic
They should wear it like a badge of honor
Good, anthropic should sell there services to China introduce the “security risk” to China.
The funny thing about stupid people, they do stupid things all the time...
Why does this feel like a Facebook post from the person who got broken up with
Oh well, I guess I've got no choice but to sign my business up for Pro plans with Kimi K2.5. lol.