I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

This is exactly what was in movie Common People (Black Mirror). Every response included AD.

Not gonna happen. LLMs are too good at filtering out ads. Will be the easiest adblocker to build.

I think a lot about the scene in Minority Report where a machine scans the main character's eyes in order to serve him targeted Gap advertising. It is even funnier because I assume Gap paid for that product placement, with seemingly no awareness that the movie would depict the ad as dystopian.

AI advertising is far more terrifying than that. Imagine using everything that has been gleaned from a person's psychology to pressure them into purchasing certain products.

This is wonderful. Why is it so fast?

We should just have phones connected to AI bots of our own that talk to them.

I've used CC with chrome to access social feeds autonomously and give me a notification at set times of the day, summarizing everything that I feel is worth knowing about— local events, local municipal announcements, some misc comics and some harmless fun with dogs/OnlyInNYC. It really takes out all the FOMO driven brain fuckery of feed and ads.

The radio scene from Annie is what we’re heading for.

Thank you, Bert Healy, drop page.

The vibecoded UI is almost more visually offensive than the ads themselves.

We need to add AI to ublock Origin so it can detect and remove adds in AI chat!

what you can use to integrate REAL ADS in AI interfaces:

zeroclick.ai and/or trygravity.ai

Sadly both are closed beta and not instant sign up.

Why not make it real.

Deliciously 2004

just kidding: will someone make a ublock filter list for this website?

This is so awful. Great job!

Ads can be a nuisance but if/ when done they can be nice too.

I hate the Google sponsored results/ ads, often they masquerade as an organic result and push the actual relevant results down in the list.

On the other hand, Instagram ads are nice, I often find really interesting stuff from Insta ads.

I think open weights models are what prevents this from already happening.

I see a lot of assumptions that ad support lowers the quality of the product.

There are two obvious historical examples to look at:

1. Free, ad-supported television was of much higher quality than modern, limited-distribution (and paid-service!) television.

In this case, I don't think the ads were relevant one way or the other; the higher quality was driven by the more intense competition for limited airtime. Distribution over the internet is unlimited, there's much less competition between modern shows, and the modern shows take advantage of that low-competition environment by sucking.

2. Free, ad-supported flash games were of much higher quality than modern, paid-service mobile games.

Here the ad support is clearly causal to the higher quality. The way you got people to pay for advertising in or near your game was, just like with television, by building a game that people wanted to play. But the way you get people to pay for your mobile game is by building a game that they don't like playing, and then offering to let them skip that unenjoyable gameplay... for a fee.

https://foxtrot.com/2014/03/23/candyfarmdungeon/

So it's not obvious to me that an ad-supported product is necessarily bad, or even worse than it would be without the ads.

Isn't this just asking Claude to make a website? Even the style seems to suggest that. And if so, this is slop. It's not really adding to the conversation.

Ads when done properly are done in a way that is beneficial to the user and still provides a good user experience. There is a reason that google.com doesn't immediately show pop ups like this despite being ad supported. That is how you lose users to a competitor.

Needs more "Ouch, My Balls!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

And more energy will be put into ad blocking, so the advertiser will pay for thousands of tokens to generate the ad and the user will pay for the tokens to strip the ads

Advertising is the root of all evil

I love it!

Fun demo. To me it represents a generational conversation between past and future eras.

Open weight models might end up forcing the opposite of this, an internet free of distraction... but only if we can collectively agree to build such a future.

Thanks! I absolutely hate this! Can we please pass legislation against advertising now? Please?

Thanks, I hate it

tfw building an actual project that hn ignores every time i post it but then i see slop like this on the top of the page

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