Ghostty is leaving GitHub

gh been going down hill since microslop took over. No surprise.

Hear me out: Github needs ads . If option A is downtime (and data integrity issues), Ads are more favorable. The terminal UI and PRs are both captive real estate that developers have to pay attention to.

There is a simple cost equation of 40-100x demand vs a fixed op-ex budget for the org. Github can either 40x their paying customer fees or try to monetize all of the free vibecoder (and open source) traffic.

I thought that Ghostty was a company that had partnered with GitHub. But no it’s a popular open source application.

So they will move their CI and issue tracker somewhere else.

And this will be largely a springboard for “people are leaving the ship huh” and misc. GitHub demise discussions.

It really has been infuriating lately. Between this and my company's proxy screwing with HTTP/2 at least once a day the frustration is very very real. While I'm nowhere as invested in GitHub its decline does make me sad.

Related:

An Update on GitHub Availability

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47932422

The unspoken reality of github: It would be significantly better both as a product and a vehicle in our economy if it was entirely worker owned.

I could recommend trying out source hut!

I find that so fascinating... I know GitHub since decades.

Over said decades I've worked on countless (open source) projects there.

Professionally? 1 project in all those years. Yes, exactly 1 (still there).

Every single other project was either in bitbucket, gitlab, gitea, forgejo or... I am sure I forgot some forge.

What I am trying to convey is: fascinating how "everything is on GitHub" is a very american way to see the world.

All of this and more entered my mind the very moment I learned that Microsoft had acquired GitHub.

I'm sensing a trend

I'm not sure how we ever could have expected GitHub to continue with or add quality when being built by the same company that also builds MS Teams. There are clearly the wrong quality levers at work inside Microsoft.

Yes, it seemed like Microsoft had a brief interregnum period of about 10 years where they seemed to have a renaissance and a genuine culture change and a concern for quality and initiative seemed to take hold.

And for many of us who came into the industry in the 90s this was a strange period because actually post-Gates/Balmer MS suddenly seem not so bad?

But that was until the first deals with OpenAI and the first round of layoffs. After Musk's purges at Twitter, MS was the first to really join in the fray.

Since then the old MS is back. Clearly as Machiavellian as in the past. But kind of sadder and more pathetic.

But honestly I'm also a bit confused by the framing some people have this thread because I remember GitHub always having reliability issues in its early days. It and Twitter were both famous RoR projects with notorious and constant outage issues in the 2008/2009 time-frame.

I blame Agent Smith

- Mr. Anderson

Github was not built for a world where its userbase quadrupled and are pumping in generated slop at non-stop pace.

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GitHub is fine.

As an aside, I always wondered why GitHub had a web interface. Admittedly I’m a pre-web SCCS/RCS “old timer” but I wouldn't have put a web interface on it at all.