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Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130M Europeans switching to sovereign payment

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phplovesongtoday at 3:27 PM

Is there an english version of this?

eesmithtoday at 2:04 PM

If it requires (or will require) Google/Apple authentication then it's of course not sovereign payment. It looks like Wero works on GrapheneOS, at least for now. Will that always be possible?

Will it always be smartphone only, or will there be other options?

I've read about the problems kids (eg, 10 year olds) are having in the countries which have gone mostly cash-free when they don't have a smartphone or debit card to use for otherwise normal and age-appropriate transactions.

I can't help but think that by switching even more of the economy to smartphone-based solutions then kids will have even more restricted purchasing autonomy.

To say nothing of people like me who don't have and don't want to have a smart phone.

throwaway132448today at 3:04 PM

It’s kind of wild seeing American soft power evaporate like this. I didn’t think it was the kind of thing that would happen in my lifetime.

epolanskitoday at 1:32 PM

As political instability has shown, it is a bad idea to have all your payments go through a single, weaponizable, failure point in New York.

Europe needs to be functionally as independent as possible.

moralestapiatoday at 2:24 PM

Canada chiming in, Interac rules above anything else.

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0xbadcafebeetoday at 1:44 PM

Soon: "President Trump issued a new tariff today on all non-US payment systems, saying `We have the best protectionist economy in the world, it's really great`"

karel-3dtoday at 2:11 PM

I am a European (Czech Republic) and I have never heard of any of those (Epis/Bizum/Vipps).

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dzongatoday at 2:36 PM

once again the crypto shills - r left exposed.

pix as already proven in Brazil - is faster. this system again will be faster & secure & more convenient with less fees.

trimethylpurinetoday at 2:06 PM

Please post in English. Chrome is unable to translate this page.

dheeratoday at 3:09 PM

When I click on a link, I expect information.

When I get blasted with this: https://i.imgur.com/oeGU3qd.png

I really don't know what to do. I can't read so much. Bounce.

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iwontberudetoday at 2:22 PM

Crypto broskis have been selling so many bullshit coins for this specific moment in time and failed.

persephonextoday at 3:29 PM

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IndianHandwashtoday at 1:42 PM

"sovereign" :D :D :D

In the EUSSR1

nicholasbrakertoday at 1:46 PM

I thought crypto would have solved this ;-)

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Arnttoday at 2:07 PM

I tried Wero just now. Crashes at once on my phone.

I run Lineage is, want backups on my own NAS. I have a feeling that if I want this European payment app I need to accept backing up my data on an American cloud.

(I've nothing against Google really. But I want my backups at home.)