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I spent 50 hours drawing a line graph

120 pointsby dougdude3339last Thursday at 3:05 PM21 commentsview on HN

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JKCalhountoday at 12:58 PM

I (perhaps mistakenly) saw the article as metaphor.

50 hours to draw a line graph vs. a few minutes trying various styles in PowerPoint.

Stop letting machines make graphs, pay a draftsman like we used to do!

(I'm fairly dense though, so I probably completely missed that the author was instead simply espousing the joys of learning a new handicraft.)

jinnytotoday at 12:57 PM

Amazing process (such patience in this day and age!), and special thanks for sharing links to the data viz books! Tufte was my gateway too but I didn’t think to look into books on technical sketching, engineering drawing, and draftsmanship.

Love hand-drawn viz, recently I’ve been looking at the French National Institute of Statistics and Economic Studies (INSEE) and they have a great collection of all their reports, from pre-1900s to now. I especially appreciate this beautiful one about people with mental illness in the Seine department… from 1889. The typography is chef’s kiss https://www.bnsp.insee.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52510983q/f49.item...

(After years of reading Hacker News this post motivated me to finally make an account and upvote. Data viz is so fun)

card_zerotoday at 12:00 PM

This should be a competitive sport, like gymnastics. He's attempting the bevel! With extra-wide lines! Very ambitious, but unfortunately he often fails to stick the corner alignments, the bevel distances are poorly controlled, and the data is unsuitably spiky for that choice of line joint. 7/10.

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Daubtoday at 12:51 PM

I teach digital art and am also a painter. When I was a student I loved filling sketchbooks with drawings - like a collection of ideas. To a large degree my web bookmarks and screen grab library have taken over this function. That being said, if I want to quickly communicate visual ideas to students or craftsmen I much prefer a paper and pencil. It feels so much more nuanced, comfortable and expressive.

estetlinustoday at 12:58 PM

Love it. Are any of your viz up for sale?

apwheeletoday at 12:20 PM

You should add in Calvin Schmid's Handbook of Graphic Presentation into your list Doug -- https://archive.org/details/HandbookOfGraphicPresentation/pa...

Unfortunately I do not see specific discussion of how to make the lines a consistent thickness. It does have notes on how to sharpen your pencil and how to use a carpenters spline to draw smooth curves though.

jstummbilligtoday at 10:06 AM

> A professional draftsman of the 1920's may cringe at the imperfections in my line graph above. They can suck it.

I am willing to suck it but the kerning is still killing me. (I love everything about this btw)

max-chtoday at 12:07 PM

Fantastic read!

In the mid-2010s, I was interning at the German federal statistical office. Some of the team assistants were there since the 1980s/90s and had still learnt to use those tools as part of their vocational training. They also showed me the tools and the instructions for drawing exactly aligned tables by hand and the resulting bound sets of tables with hundreds of pages. Completely mind-boggling how much time they must have spent on a single project, now all automated away.

yvdriesstoday at 10:10 AM

And here I thought drawing graphs in TikZ was doing it manually.

Love the article, this is why I browse HN.

pramtoday at 10:30 AM

They look really good. I really enjoy looking at midcentury engineering charts/diagrams and stuff like jeppesen charts. NASA has a lot of good ones. The way the text looks, the line economy, the general aesthetic. Well worth the effort imo!

codeducktoday at 12:14 PM

This is my favourite kind of post here

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dougdude3339last Thursday at 3:05 PM

What's been more interesting to me lately than using software to design data visualizations is learning to draw data by hand. It's a time consuming process but incredibly rewarding. The feeling of erasing graphite to reveal clean, crisp lines is something that software cannot recreate.

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flirtoday at 12:33 PM

Heh. Which if y'all borrowed the Tufte book?

It's ok, I can wait...

bananaflagtoday at 12:05 PM

What I'm curious now is how one could use software (even PowerPoint) to make graphs that replicate that handmade aesthetic.

petesergeanttoday at 12:41 PM

Does he explain what the red dots in the titles of his work are meant to be? Possibly I didn’t read carefully enough

satisficetoday at 11:16 AM

It’s nice to see something on HN that isn’t about writing a prompt so that you can pretend to work.

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