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Greg Brockman: Inside the 72 Hours That Almost Killed OpenAI

82 pointsby prakashqwertytoday at 8:29 AM50 commentsview on HN

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embedding-shapetoday at 10:42 AM

Not feeling like 1 hour of my Sunday is worth listening to this, do anyone have the non-clickbait answers to the two "previews" mentioned in the description?

> Greg explains how the original Napa offsite produced the three-step technical plan OpenAI has followed for a decade and the real reason OpenAI had to abandon its pure nonprofit structure

What was the technical plan and what was the "real reason" they couldn't achieve their original goals?

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H8crilAtoday at 10:30 AM

As far as Brockman account of the past goes, there's also his personal diary which was made public as a part of that lawsuit by Musk. Includes for example the line: "Financially what will take me to $1B?". BTW, if you don't know, Musk lost it because he filed too late, lol.

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batu1509today at 12:01 PM

building products on top of their api makes these drama weekends terrifying. really makes you realize how fragile your whole stack is when a board decides to act up.

stuaxotoday at 12:17 PM

Thankful for the mention of "AGI" in the first lines as I can bail out from reading the rest.

Whatever AGI is, it "AGI" is not glueing a load of text prediction machines together.

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throwaway_2494today at 12:34 PM

I remember when computer magazines were aimed at programmers and had code listings in them.

Then there seemed to come a time when all they talked about was the IBM vs. Microsoft lawsuit. From then on they must have felt that they had discovered a formula, because all they ever yapped about after was insider baseball of computer companies.

I find this sort of corp. vs. corp. coverage boring, sort of like techie reality TV. Who will be voted out tonight, Debra, or Debora...?

YetAnotherNicktoday at 11:55 AM

Why can't someone ask what happened in Ilya's mind. Firing Sam and then signing the solidarity letter of Sam to leave OpenAI if was fired. Other than that, all other information seems kind of just going over the surface.

mikkkeetoday at 12:37 PM

not sure why but this episode feels v boring perhaps because he didn't share anything unexpected / unknown

jansantoday at 12:58 PM

I wonder if that pronounced vocal fry Altman and Brockman both use started as an internal joke and they just decided to keep it. It gives off major Elizabeth Holmes vibes.

jonstewarttoday at 12:11 PM

Point of order: Anthropic is the most important AI company now.

jordemorttoday at 12:58 PM

too bad, eh

cold_harbortoday at 11:17 AM

what's wild is they accidentally solved it — pretraining IS unsupervised learning at scale, RLHF IS reinforcement learning. they just didnt know the recipe yet

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pjmlptoday at 11:45 AM

Unfortunately they survived, not going to spend time with this.

From my point of view they are yet another big tech bros company.

PunchTornadotoday at 12:47 PM

isn't this the friend of scam altman? who cares of what he has to say?

optimalsolvertoday at 10:43 AM

>So many people were trying to sign the petition at once that it actually crashed Google Docs

I still wonder how much peer pressure was behind that. Like, what if you think Sam is a scumbag and you're glad he's gone, but people are waving this petition in your face. What would you do? It would be really bad for you if the emperor returned and you were one of the few who didn't sign it.

Also, going by this video, the first order of business for an AGI should be finding a cure for hair loss.

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bmitctoday at 10:22 AM

So firing a grifter means it would kill the company? Doesn't that mean the company is grifting? If no one else can possibly lead the supposedly the most important company, with billions/trillions (?) of so called value, do you have a good company and product?

Or do I forget that this guy sleeps with an Ayn Rand doll tucked under his arms?

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throw6999today at 12:18 PM

Sky net from future protected itself.