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Ferrari Luce

149 pointsby jumploopsyesterday at 9:00 PM309 commentsview on HN

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/its-finally-here-m...


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ahmadyantoday at 3:53 AM

I feel bad for Jony Ive, no amount of lipstick on a pig is going to save that horrendous car.

pryelluwyesterday at 10:44 PM

Looks like a melted down Pontiac Aztec. Though, I don’t see Walter White forking over money for it.

skyberrysyesterday at 9:18 PM

At first I thought it was a Ferrari custom built for Jony Ive made just to his specifications. But once I saw the first image I could easily understand it was designed by him. It's a talent to be an industrial designer with such a clean recognizable style that it's like a signature, easily recognizable as to who it belongs to.

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Kon5oleyesterday at 10:46 PM

Seems to me Porsche or Audi would have been better choices for Ive’s designs.

Then again the uproar might be the point of the experiment.

Edit: As an electric Ferrari family car it’s not too bad imo. Making it look like a mid-engine v12 would be silly, since it’s not that.

iknownthingyesterday at 9:20 PM

Well that doesn't look like a Ferrari

carlos-menezesyesterday at 9:22 PM

That's the least Ferrari looking Ferrari I have ever seen.

avereveardtoday at 3:37 AM

Fiat Multipla level design blunder

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cromkayesterday at 10:35 PM

Cars like this is why restomods are getting big

spprashanttoday at 12:30 AM

Have we perhaps hyped Jony Ive a little too much?

jaksatoday at 4:52 AM

Ferrari Multipla

kuloryesterday at 9:36 PM

Kudos to Ferrari trying to stay modern with a collab with one of the best industrial designers of the moment. But this feels antithetical to Ferrari, it's bland and utilitarian where they should be channeling flair and evocative designs.

t1234stoday at 1:19 AM

I try to imagine the Ferrari badges as apple logos and the car all of a sudden makes sense.

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skeptruneyesterday at 9:20 PM

I really appreciate how "Jony Ive" this looks. Feels like they absolutely nailed the style.

I personally feel like it looks like a disposable tech hardware product, but to each their own. I'm sure a lot of people will love it.

valcron1000today at 4:36 AM

Damn, that looks awful.

coolgooseyesterday at 10:20 PM

The front looks like a vacuum cleaner

9frontyesterday at 11:29 PM

Jony Ive design philosophy of "thin and with round corners" can be seen in the Ferrari Luce. The car looks like an iPhone.

MrGilberttoday at 12:14 AM

I read the comments before visiting the website. After the page loaded I was like: "Well, the silhouette from above and the color looks neat!"

I scrolled further and saw the front of the car, and now I get what the comments meant. Holy moly. That‘s worse than the Jaguar rebrand on my scale.

quaddoggytoday at 1:27 AM

The interior isn't offensive, but don't the dashboard air vents appear to kind of bolted on? Like, maybe they are super functional? But they look like an afterthought aesthetically.

drfloyd51yesterday at 10:38 PM

The gas engine Farraris are a pinnacle of design for an engine, gas tank, drive train, and human occupant.

It would have been trivial for Ferrari to just make their classic style but now, electric! And it would have been full of compromise.

Ferrari has made, in their opinion, the best design for the constraints and challenges of an Electric Vehicle. 4 motors, battery, human.

Good for them for putting real effort into it. And not just making a cash grab.

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topspinyesterday at 11:43 PM

You could stick a Door Dash car topper on the roof and few people would pick up on the joke. So the entire point of Ferrari is lost in this exterior design. Where are the wings and strakes and diffusers? It has a few holes, but sans that it's a slightly more swoopy two-tone Model 3.

reaperhulkyesterday at 9:17 PM

Discussed 3 months ago as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46949642

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iainctduncanyesterday at 9:59 PM

Nice to see that, after all these years, "car commercial techno" is still a thing.

Man, I miss the 90's. Best decade for electronic music ever.

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ncr100yesterday at 11:23 PM

IDK about you, I keep imagining the horn when I see the outside: like Beaker from Dr Honeydew's laboratory in The Muppets,

"Hmeep!"

Ferrari horns are in my opinion legendary wonderful toots. And I'm troubled that this car offers very little "Ferrari" while sitting atop its brand.

avalysyesterday at 11:50 PM

This would have a chance as a $250k entry-level Ferrari. Not much of a chance, but a chance. At $600k? Crazy.

You could buy a V12 Ferrari at that price, if a Ferrari is what you want. Or a Rolls Royce Spectre if you want something quiet and luxurious.

manyatomsyesterday at 10:28 PM

Why couldn't they have made it look like a normal Ferrari.

It's just a powertrain change why mess up all the styling.

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throwaway85825yesterday at 11:08 PM

Ugly as sin.

jsroznertoday at 4:01 AM

I'll take "A waste of the world's resources for $200k, Alex" *600k, sorry

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clickety_clacktoday at 2:27 AM

Would be really awesome if you could fit 3 child seats in the back.

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Zigurdyesterday at 10:21 PM

If the battery is under the passenger compartment, you're pretty much stuck with a sedan-derived coupe look. The performance better be super ultra special, otherwise Ferrari had no need to make a car that looks like that.

dclyesterday at 11:34 PM

This is the car you will need to buy to get on the list to buy the Ferrari you kind of want - but not the Ferrari you really, really want, that will cost you a lot more.

flokieyesterday at 9:21 PM

love the interior, not sure how i feel about that front end however. "The lowest drag coefficient in Ferrari history" is not what i would have guessed just seeing the picture alone, so props to them on making this possible!

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LetMeLoginyesterday at 10:11 PM

Cleo Abrams dropped an interview with the creators:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-o0r2zSgCE

dtagamesyesterday at 10:22 PM

It's lovely and I bet they sell every one they build.

mrcwinntoday at 3:22 AM

Whoa. This is hideous.

866-RON-0-FEZyesterday at 11:02 PM

Ive is an overrated plonker and my first reaction is to wonder if all the serviceable components are glued in place.

Do you know why no one has ever put rotating switches on a steering wheel face before? Because it requires two fingers to operate the switches and thus taking your entire hand off the wheel. Those knobs and switches might as well be in the center console because it takes a similar amount of effort and diversion of attention to operate.

This looks like a car designed by someone who's never driven before. Did the early prototypes feature bubble domes before they were forced to tell Ive that won't work?

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basseedyesterday at 9:31 PM

I wonder if some of the design is related to the car that Apple was designing, if Apple released an EV this is pretty much what I would have expected it to look like

sgtyesterday at 9:35 PM

"The lights gently recede when switched off, perserving the purity of the form."

This is totally impossible to read without hearing it in Ive's soothing voice.

t1234stoday at 1:20 AM

The value of everyone manual F430 just went up a bit more.

jcmontxtoday at 12:22 AM

Enzo is rolling on his grave

cfiggerstoday at 12:11 AM

This almost couldn't be less "Ferrari." Really baffling.

sgtyesterday at 9:30 PM

Cool, it has suicide doors like the BMW i3 (a legendary concept car that escaped into the wild, and caused BMW to lose a lot of money)

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hnburnsyyesterday at 11:36 PM

It is 2026 cars don't need start buttons, physical keys, or giant round air vents

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ZiiSyesterday at 9:18 PM

If the brief was to make an ipad stuck to the dash of a Ferrari not ruin the rest of the car then that is certainly one way to do it.

notnullorvoidtoday at 12:56 AM

I'm surprised we still let Jony Ive design anything.

mdotktoday at 2:12 AM

Nissan Leaf with a hideous bodykit

deterministictoday at 4:02 AM

It doesn't even look like a Ferrari. I am 99.999% sure it will fail.

magiclawyesterday at 10:22 PM

Love the interior. Hate the exterior.

tail_exchangeyesterday at 10:05 PM

Maybe I just have a bad taste for cars, but this looks awful. Uninspiring. Looks like a Tesla with a Ferrari logo.

Edit: I do love the analog buttons in the interior though. I despise those big screens with all the controls, and no tactile feedback.

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Grazesteryesterday at 10:06 PM

Ferrari done lost their mind! If you told me this was a Kia I would have said it was ugly for a Kia.

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browningstreettoday at 12:23 AM

Dumb looking, Back to the Future inspired, toy design.

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