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jandrewrogerstoday at 4:44 PM5 repliesview on HN

I understand Apple's position on this one. This is essentially a backdoor into all of your data. It is also a very useful feature. The EU regulators are disallowing guardrails without which this backdoor will be used to strip-mine people's personal data. The privacy implications are not legible to most people.

If I was more cynical I would suggest that this is being used as an end-run around encryption, since the encryption doesn't have backdoors for the government but this gives you access to all the same data.

When this backdoor is inevitably exploited in some very public fashion, it won't be the EU regulators that required the backdoor to exist who will be blamed.


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simjndtoday at 4:56 PM

It would only be a backdoor if it's implemented as a backdoor.

The way Apple Health exchanges data with 3rd-party trackers (Fitbit, Garmin, etc.) is very well built and a good model of how other components in iOS could allow data exchange with very granular permissions.

Apple touts the "Private Cloud Compute". If they found a way to share your personal context to process on their cloud in a private and anonymized way, there is no reason the same process couldn't be used to handoff data to a 3rd party AI provider.

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flaunf221today at 6:34 PM

> This is essentially a backdoor into all of your data.

This is the rhetoric used against right to repair. "What if enemies get access to our citizens' data if we allow anyone but us to repair your car?"

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flumpcakestoday at 4:53 PM

iPhones have pretty good privacy controls. I don’t see how they can’t extend those to cover AI apps. I imagine the settings menu will get bonkers though. User education about apps slurping up all your data is needed regardless. People just trust apple with their talk of private cloud computing.

andixtoday at 5:50 PM

> This is essentially a backdoor into all of your data.

No. Only if you would consider the Linux/macos/windows filesystem API a backdoor too. On your desktop any app with sufficient permissions can read all your data. Would you call that a backdoor?

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iAMkenoughtoday at 6:12 PM

Why do you use the phrase backdoor?

Is Apple incapable of designing a permissions system that allows a user to grant access to email and messages to an app of their choice?

We already download apps and grant them permissions to subsections of personal data on our devices.

I don’t believe Apple is incapable of designing a system that respects a user’s choices and granted permissions.