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atleastoptimalyesterday at 6:37 PM10 repliesview on HN

It's crazy that so often I see articles, here on HN and elsewhere, where some pundit claims that there is no AI job crisis, AI isn't replacing any jobs, that layoffs are actually due to post-pandemic ZIRP overhiring, etc.

But then people who work in actual tech companies come in and explicitly say they are not hiring any juniors anymore specifically because AI is good enough to do most of what juniors do, and that senior engineers can now write 3x as much code, etc.

There seems to be a desire for a narrative that AI really just can't replace productive work, and that it's all a mirage. However it seems just like common sense that if an AI can do junior-engineer-level coding work, that a company has less reason to hire a junior engineer.


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bwestergardyesterday at 6:55 PM

The decline in junior hiring began before ChatGPT had wide adoption, so AI is not a likely cause.

https://www.employamerica.org/labor-market-analysis/dont-bla...

The New York Fed has also released some research suggesting remote work has been a major factor differentially affecting early career workers.

https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2026/06/remote...

"But then people who work in actual tech companies come in and explicitly say they are not hiring any juniors anymore specifically because AI is good enough to do most of what juniors do, and that senior engineers can now write 3x as much code, etc."

If you want an anecdote: the media company I work for just started hiring interns and juniors in software career tracks again after a lengthy hiatus.

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OptionOfTyesterday at 7:08 PM

> There seems to be a desire for a narrative that AI really just can't replace productive work, and that it's all a mirage.

Yes, and juniors aren't known for their productive work in the beginning. That's not their purpose. Their purpose is to do the mundane work, because it is important for them to become less junior and more senior.

That is robbed of them.

Which in 5-10 years means the need for senior developers is gonna shoot through the roof.

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gruezyesterday at 6:54 PM

>But then people who work in actual tech companies come in and explicitly say they are not hiring any juniors anymore specifically because AI is good enough to do most of what juniors do, and that senior engineers can now write 3x as much code, etc.

Yup, that's reflected in the data as well, no need to invoke "vibes" or whatever.

https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20260516_EPC...

https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20260516_EPC...

The likely explanation is that there's job losses happening in some sectors, but it's made up for in other sectors.

tboyd47yesterday at 6:42 PM

They probably weren't hiring any junior coders to begin with.

scottiousyesterday at 6:55 PM

the job description of a junior engineer can change. junior engineers can use AI to make themselves more productive too

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emp17344yesterday at 8:28 PM

If you’re so confident, show us some data to debunk the article. You have a weird chip on shoulder, but no economic evidence to justify it.

Qhemlomoyesterday at 8:15 PM

And now it becomes so good, that you want to have it. Which means companies have to deal with the budget increase which they will recupe.

How? By making a 5 person team a 4 person team + AI.

If i think about my co-workers (not excluding myself) from last 15 years, there was always someone you would accept just because it was better than not having that one person. If i can now replace them with more tokens/better models, man i wouldn't hesitate (of course i know what this means on a person to person level :/)

themafiayesterday at 8:24 PM

> actual tech companies

Are you talking the big 10? Or "tech companies" in general?

> AI really just can't replace productive work

Okay. Show me the productivity gains. Those are measurable. Why is the "AI is ready" crowd never prepared to show this?

> that if an AI can do junior-engineer-level coding work

Then you have no competitive edge and most of your output probably cannot be copyrighted.

thrownaway561yesterday at 7:39 PM

well said. my wife's company has been having layoffs particularly from the overhiring during COVID. They went from 10 billion down to 1 billion thus far.

nawgzyesterday at 6:44 PM

> However it seems just like common sense that if an AI can do junior-engineer-level coding work, that a company has less reason to hire a junior engineer.

I mean, if we want to not talk about economics that’s fine, but can the AI actually do junior work at the same price? What if we don’t look only at quarterly reports, and instead include the value of having people knowing about the business having to explain it to others, who then learn it and can improve it over time?

I think it’s clear the AI is strong, there’s no doubt about that, but that’s not the whole picture.

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