Who's afraid of Chinese models?

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Kellogg School of Business -- he said -- token as a commodity and therefore Open AI is constrained .. ha ha ha hee hee ha .. Well... you build a better mousetrap, and DeepSeek, K3, and ByteDance are just that -- just as good and fit to purpose -- What is needed is to build on top of -- not paniteir (invade privacy and kill people with the information) -- not USMC AI -- use PI's as overwatch killer drones -- but how can I make harder steel, longer-lasting, seawater-resistant concrete, faster time to build housing, better enforcement of USDA rules and FDA adverse enforcement, and better EPA water cleanup, a better FTC for consumer goods -- that is, if I buy an item, that item is safe and built to purpose -- ANYONE not talking about public protection of consumer rights usng AI, is wasting your time

People with 401k’s and retirees?

Looks like authored by AI. With quite some reasoning, but no real data to back up main point.

What makes the Chinese models this good? I don't believe it's distillation alone.

This from OpenAi's Head of Strategic Futures "Some observations on Kimi: It's a very good model! I don't think its performance can be explained away by distillation or anything like that"

https://x.com/deanwball/status/2078133895766114412

China's strategy of spending billions on training these models and open sourcing these models away is strategic - they want to kill the US LLM industry at any cost.

To win on the AI front by any means necessary.

I think frontier labs should start building ecosystems by partnering with companies that already have software products, and even collaborating with hardware manufacturers. The ultimate goal should be to create a much broader range of products that integrate naturally into people's everyday lives.

The United States' real advantage over China is freedom. Chinese LLMs simply can't compete with American ones when it comes to the humanities, creativity, entertainment, or financial transparency. As long as the U.S. continues monetizing these strengths, the compounding effect will make it virtually impossible for China to surpass the U.S. at the product level.