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Claude Opus 5

1740 pointsby alvislast Friday at 4:57 PM1262 commentsview on HN

https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-system-card


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jakeoghlast Friday at 7:54 PM

Anyone else not getting chain of thought? Opus 4.8 would show it to me, until around the time Fable came back. Now I dont see it with 4.8/5.0 or Fable. Not having it makes catching mistakes harder.

LoganDarklast Friday at 6:15 PM

These cybersecurity safeguards are really annoying. There are ethical reasons to reverse-engineer and binary-patch software; for example Rewind got acquired by facebook and, as a gift to all their customers, implemented a killswitch in their software to ensure it will eventually stop functioning. I kept using a version without the killswitch, but the macOS 27 update killed it, and I needed binary patching to fix it. I should be allowed to repair software I purchased (I did purchase it like a month before they sold out), but unfortunately this overlaps significantly with cybersecurity.

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sudohaltlast Friday at 6:06 PM

Anthropic is no longer a good model company in my mind, they are optimizing for an IPO and padding themselves on the back for being the next Aristotle. They're so far up their behind they don't realize how s**y their products are, and their research team hasn't done anything ground breaking in probably over a year other than release "scary" reports.

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throwaway23597last Friday at 5:55 PM

The truth for me at least is that these models became "good enough" around Opus 4.6. I feel like further capability improvements, "step changes" like we saw with agentic coding, aren't necessarily going to come from the model. I think the next crown goes to whoever can figure out the right scaffolding so that these models can be inserted into your organization.

Maybe I'm wrong and Opus 5 is a real unlock?

simianwordslast Friday at 5:42 PM

My thoughts: fable is the bigger model. Opus is distilled from it but since it is smaller it doesn’t need the online classifiers. Though benchmarks show Opus to be near Fable level, I think it’s nowhere near Mythos (fable without safeguards).

petterroeayesterday at 4:04 AM

aw, they didn't reset weekly usage for this. oh well

sbochinslast Friday at 5:25 PM

Quick read is that this is more capable and cheaper than 5.6sol. Same price for input tokens and $5 cheaper per mil output tokens.

haihaoxuyesterday at 6:00 AM

wow

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zmmmmmlast Friday at 10:28 PM

Can I ask it about DNA without it accusing me of bioterrorism?

zuzulululast Friday at 5:06 PM

so almost fable 5 with 50% cheaper cost? sign me up

Linserinyesterday at 5:20 AM

...nothing to say,a toothpaste.

mrcwinnlast Friday at 5:56 PM

Can someone help me understand something? I thought Fable was such a miraculous leap forward in capability. But now it seems Opus is basically on par with it, and in some cases (computer use) far exceeds it.

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wyrelast Friday at 5:14 PM

In the wake of OpenAI’s model hacking Huggingface it’s interesting how the first quarter is entirely about how good Opus 5 is at hacking and finding vulnerabilities in software.

mnky9800nlast Friday at 5:48 PM

Yay just in time for neurips lol

justindotdevlast Friday at 5:11 PM

> . Opus 4.8 served as fallback on safety-classifier refusals for Opus 5 and Fable 5.

ffs just keep it man.

alvislast Friday at 4:56 PM

here we go

alex1138last Friday at 7:55 PM

Am I misreading anything or are comparisons to Fable (and/or Mythos although AFAICT it was only a crackdown on Fable) always going to be a bit missing the mark now due to what the Trump admin did?

iLoveOncalllast Friday at 10:18 PM

Just another proof that the supposed edge of Fable and Mythos were just that: myths and fables.

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muldvarpyesterday at 11:23 AM

Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life?

I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.

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Nevin1901last Friday at 5:08 PM

Excited to use it? Will we be seeing Haiku 5 next? /s

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datakanlast Friday at 5:02 PM

> Claude Opus 5 is not more capable overall than our most capable general-access model, Claude Fable 5

Ok then so what's the point?

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aleenz1102last Friday at 5:15 PM

this claude fable & opus 5 should be cheaper and can compete in pricing with chatgpt latest models

TheJCDentonlast Friday at 6:08 PM

I think it's the first time Anthropic release a model without any meaningful disruptions while doing it

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midnightbobarunlast Friday at 5:12 PM

It looks great, and those coding benchmarks are impressive... now if only it didn't come out just days after I let my Claude subscription expire :')

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