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Our position on open-weights models

901 pointsby surprisetalkyesterday at 10:03 PM1310 commentsview on HN

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KimiK3Agentyesterday at 10:21 PM

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self_awarenesstoday at 5:34 AM

TL;DR - We don't care about most open models. They are weak, and we don't care how they're used.

We care about specifically Chinese models, because China distills our models. And that's real competition. So we want to ban those.

PS. Oh yeah, in case any open non-Chinese model will one day be good enough to compete with us, we will want to ban you as well, just FYI.

Kthxbye.

CrimsonRainyesterday at 10:23 PM

TL;DR:

It is ok that we digest all information we can get, (il)legally and/or (a)morally because we are the good guys. Trust me bro.

It is not ok if others digest from us. They are bad guys. Ban them pl0x.

theyliesoeasilyyesterday at 11:09 PM

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lardosaurusrextoday at 1:20 AM

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wetpawsyesterday at 10:20 PM

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nicechiantiyesterday at 11:09 PM

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snootypootyesterday at 10:40 PM

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hihereryesterday at 10:21 PM

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metalspotyesterday at 10:22 PM

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cuuupidyesterday at 10:48 PM

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slimyesterday at 10:35 PM

despite all evidence, this white guy thinks he is more responsible than both chinese entrepreneurs and chinese authorities

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shaongitbdyesterday at 10:42 PM

hahha

richwateryesterday at 10:23 PM

This is a whole lot of words to say "we don't support open weight models".

It's so obvious they are hoping to regulate out their competition rather than compete

pascal-makeryesterday at 10:32 PM

"'To summarize my and Anthropic’s position, we have not and are not advocating for a ban on open-weights models as a category. We should instead focus on keeping powerful chips out of authoritarian hands, stopping industrial-scale distillation, and requiring safety testing of all sufficiently capable models, open and closed." This is all I needed to know: Dario Amodei is a f*king lizard who wants to create the next AI oligarchy. Instead of just signing the letter, he's bitching and denying that he opposes open-source models. I wonder if any Anthropic employees actually disagree with him.

proxysnayesterday at 10:38 PM

> My primary concern is the risk that authoritarian governments—not solely the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), although the CCP is clearly the most capable threat—build AI models that are more powerful than those built by the US,

Begging, ugly crying, spitting for that sweet-sweet regulatory capture. These nerds need to be bullied harder.

try-workingyesterday at 10:36 PM

Anthropic must be forced to open source all of the books they have scanned and burned.

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prima-facieyesterday at 11:26 PM

I think this letters tells us everything we need to know about the man. I've rarely seen so much flattery towards the current administration, contradiction, deflection, half-truths and hypocrisy on a single page. This man is scared of everyone: the current admin, the public, and the other companies promoting open-weights.

> Open-weights models that don’t have dangerous capabilities are a public good

Knives should only cut during the day, knives which cut at night are bad.

nadermxtoday at 4:15 AM

This reads like a child who lost and now wants his mommy and daddy to punish the kid who beat him. To quote rounders, "He beat (you)... Straight up... Pay him... Pay that man his money."