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Astra for Law

432 pointsby vertigoruntimeyesterday at 8:17 PM459 commentsview on HN

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hansonkdyesterday at 10:25 PM

I've had top SV lawfirms whos partner charged our company $2000/hr and still couldn't get the right docs in the signature packet. and another getting share counts wrong during raise.

frustrating that law firms have no liability for these mistakes

I welcome ai law

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smusamashahyesterday at 10:05 PM

Astra isn't doing well on bullshit Benchmark https://petergpt.github.io/bullshit-benchmark/viewer/index.n... and is even worse in Legal department.

Qwen 3.8 Max and Opus 4.8 score highest.

redwoodtoday at 12:33 AM

Revealing how they call Harvey and Legora customers instead of partners...

weare138today at 12:02 AM

Everyone involved is about to get a swift and thorough introduction to the world corporate contract lawyers. But don't worry, they're extremely sympathetic and understanding when you flub a multi-million dollar corporate contract and will happily refund that money.

gamblor956today at 3:09 AM

Espn has an article about Lane Kiffin using this for his legal advice recently.

He almost singlehandedly killed LSUs football program until people were able to convince him to talk to a real lawyer.

alexnewmanyesterday at 10:25 PM

As a user of ai hooked up to my Gmail I assume I’ve lost all privilege

guybedotoday at 12:29 AM

yes, most of the time i use Astra Low already.

rocke_dongtoday at 1:19 AM

yes, law decision depends on human

freejazzyesterday at 9:30 PM

Went from AI replacing my job as an attorney, to them begging me to use their tools

jayzalowitzyesterday at 9:58 PM

This is really cool.

jimmyjazz14yesterday at 9:45 PM

I really hope the bar associations continues to hold lawyers to high standards but I have feeling they may not be ready to handle fallout of AI slop-law.

syntaxingyesterday at 9:56 PM

I said this before but I wonder if Dan Kan will reboot Atrium. Rally up some old partners and hope Anthropic buys them out for a couple billion.

hackmack10yesterday at 8:41 PM

People that are saying OpenAI is screwed because a lack of profit, I'm not of that opinion. They are encroaching on every industry they can. They have name brand recognition, a huge user base and are showing they can be a valuable tool to all types of businesses.

As much as I hate to see it. They are now threatening industries like Engineers, Game Developers, Accountants, 3D modelers, 3D animators, Video Production, Audio Production, Therapist, Tax Auditors, Journalists, Authors, Artists, Mathematicians, Product managers, Every type of analyst and pretty much any other job that can be done behind a computer screen.

We have big problems for humanity.

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slowhadokenyesterday at 9:00 PM

Wouldn’t this and similar efforts to centralize bureaucracy make AI the new gatekeeper? Without reliable transparent models we’re just trusting OpenAI instead of a hundred top legal firms.

elpakalyesterday at 8:58 PM

where are the benchmarks

TheRealPomaxtoday at 12:40 AM

how about "just turn off your company if you're so worried about AI instead of immediately suggesting we use it to judge people's lives and livelihoods"?

kappiyesterday at 10:04 PM

this essay details how law firms became sweatshops from 80s. They charge hundreds of dollars to do make busy work by the junior most staff. LLM will kill the goldengoose of the law industry.

https://aeon.co/essays/what-made-law-into-a-white-collar-swe...

jackb4040yesterday at 10:33 PM

"Introducing Astra for Dog Walkers"

submetayesterday at 8:30 PM

Will these models eventually replace all knowledge work, leaving lawyers, doctors, product managers, software developers, and others out of a job?

If the benefits were shared across humanity, that could bring us closer to utopia. My worry is that we’ll instead end up with a handful of even wealthier billionaires and millions of people out of work.

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WarmWashyesterday at 8:51 PM

Cool, now you can pay an attorney $500/hr for them to prompt Astra for 30 minutes, and bill you like they spent the normal 8 hours on the case.

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Madmallardyesterday at 11:26 PM

The grifts continue... imagine something as consequential as Law being advertised as being solved by a statistical word generation engine that regularly gets basic things wrong. Anyone who isn't a lawyer won't know any better but you draft a single document of any appreciable detail and send it to an actual lawyer and it's littered with problems.

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gabhuzkyesterday at 8:57 PM

Law is a solved problem.

mullingitoveryesterday at 9:37 PM

I've always said this will be when we get the real Butlerian Jihad, when the AI firms start trying to liquidate the legal profession.

If you automate lawyers out of a job, you can absolutely automate lawmakers out of jobs next. (Not that this would be a bad thing? Maybe pervasive agents for everyone can be the gateway drug to a "this time it's different!" workable direct democracy)