GPT 6.1 Sol: Near-Astra intelligence for a fifth of the price

It’ll be interesting to see what happens to the economics of this business if we hit a wall on peak intelligence but keep finding cool ways to lower prices.

Cache is priced at $0.1/M, 50% as sol 6 and sonnet 5.5.

They need to fix Astra first. My main issue is with GPT in general is that unless steered it goes into building AI “sloppiness”/machinery that is not “needed”.

The good part is that this kind of behaviour also makes it good to find subtle bugs or debug issues that Fable/Claude just cannot get/fix even when you point it.

Weren't there headlines just yesterday that they weren't releasing this due to safety concerns?

It is hard to trust these scores. GPP 6 Sol has been so bad for few days.

regarding the new pro max subscription btw:

it's 500$ for 25x the plus usage, thats pro (max).

this implies that the old 200$ 20x pro (more) is now more like 10x the usage of plus.

they are slashing our subscriptions in half and make it "but we're more efficient!"

Why they are not even benchmark model against Anthropic or anybody ?

noting that input:output:cached is 10:50:1 for astra and luna but 10:50:0.5 for sol. this doesn't mean a lot without "tokens per task" information but it's still interesting for there to be a "dip" like this instead of a monotonic change in one direction or the other

Thanks, but I need the money for the next laptop.

Price wars, those always end well, especially if you are loosing billions per day!

I can appreciate they show that Opus 5.5 is objectively better intel. and cost wise on multiple benchmarks

OpenAI is cutting their subscription's token value in half. Half. I don't think this is enough to help them compete with Opus 5.5.

Is OpenAI’s Cloudflare turnstile new? Never gotten it before.

Either way, a little ironic…

Excited for Gemini 4 at equal or better coding and a fifth of the price of 6.1 Sol

It's relentless, isn't it?

If it's so good why is Dots, also released today, based on Astra?

Still too expensive. Needs to come down to $1 or less to compete with china.

very surprised by the sentiment against GPT 6.0 Sol, I've been using it exclusively since release and it feels like a cheaper astra to me. admittedly I haven't tried any anthropic models in a while other than small tests since i can't use my anthropic subscription in other harnesses (like OpenAI has supported natively for a long time).

If OpenAI cuts alternative harness support it will be a weird day trying to figure out what to do next, it's been so clearly the best bang for your buck (imo) for a while. maybe id finally have to give smaller models a try.

anything to avoid using the dogwater codex & claude code tuis.

anyways this seems like a nice cost improvement over GPT 6 Sol and I expect this will be my new daily driver.

I can blow through my weekly on astra in a few hours; hopefully this really is as good.

Am I the only one who is struggling to keep up with all these GPT model versions and which one to use and when?

Sol is so good, honestly - the sweet spot for me. I've only ever found it stumbles when you don't give enough direction. But for idea execution - Sol is the GOAT.

the race to the bottom on models is well underway. huge IPO's only really make sense for DC/HW lockups, and going vertical.

The only real question that matters at this point is what do the economics look like for OpenAI. If they make good money on this with sane accounting principles then great. If this is just throwing more gasoline on the pile of burning cash to avoid losing more inference business then this bubble can’t pop soon enough.

Sol, Astra.

Eventually: black hole.

Ok when can i get this in codex?

> At the same time, OpenAI is also making its existing $200 Pro plan less appealing. In Codex and Work, $200 Pro subscribers will see their included usage decrease from 20x of what the company offers to Plus users, down to 10x of that same allowance. In ChatGPT, meanwhile, GPT-6 Pro message caps will decrease from 200 to 100 per week.”

Fuck altruism, ammi right? lets make money, gobs of it by screwing the middle users as much as we can to push them into just two tiers: Ones that use it for recreation and others that pay through their noses.

Shots fired, half the price of Opus 5.5.

A night of no sleep this one will be.

Can't trust a company which can halve a subscription any moment they want.

OAI and Anthropic are locked in an unwindable race. Fighting over the same pool of users while cost is growing at geometric pace.

DeepSeek and GLM made it impossible for "sota" to price any way they want.

AGI is here

I’m a bit disappointed with Sol 6.1. I suspect they didn't show the benchmarks and test results because it would have been embarrassing to reveal that their flagship model can't compete with the capabilities of Sonnet 5.5. That said, I still think this model is useful for a great many things, but it looks like Anthropic has the upper hand this time.

$2/10 is pretty cheap for a frontier model...

Aka "we made an oopsie last week and released what should have been called GPT 6 Terra with the name GPT 6 Sol"

Still not available to me

So yesterday we were consumed with how this was being delayed because of safety, yada yada.

Guess not?

I guess they released this because GPT-6 Sol was underwhelming, they didn't even release it to ChatGPT. It was basically GPT-5.6 Terra for the price of Sol. However, who doesn't like price cuts? Astra for the fifth of the price? Wow, OpenAI have been quite generous recently, I still have not forgotten their 90% price cut with GPT-5.6 Luna, and now this? Astra was truly a milestone, and now they are offering similar "intelligence" for cheaper price. Incredible.

One thing I wish was better communicated is the mileage we get for our subscriptions. I do not fully understand how much usage I get with each model and their reasoning effort on 5h and weekly limit in Codex. I am asking because I know switching to Astra would consume my 5h usage limit quite rapidly, so I avoid it. If I knew how much mileage I would get from each model and respective reasoning effort, then I would be able to plan my workflow better and know when to upgrade model for a task. In almost all cases, GPT-6 Luna (XHigh) have been enough. That's why I appreciate its discount, because its dirt cheap, yet highly capable.

In other news:

> In the coming days, we’ll also offer GPT‑6.1 Sol Ultrafast , with up to 8x faster token generation compared to its standard speed in Codex.

Sam Assman needs money to buy a new super car or private jet?

I was wondering why GPT-6 astra has been performing so incredibly bad on codex for the last week. This seems to be a repeating pattern, to dial the settings on the current models to the idiot setting, and then release a new model about a week later.

I wonder if this is the reason GPT barely works now and some chats have become not accessible.

where's the pelican?

Typically how long does codex take to update with the right model metadata for the release of a new model?

{"type":"item.completed","item":{"id":"item_0","type":"error","message":"Model metadata for `gpt-6.1-sol` not found. Defaulting to fallback metadata; this can degrade performance and cause issues."}}

I wish they'd list the environmental cost. My employer has an unlimited AI budget so I don't care about using Astra if it's just more profit for OpenAI. I care more if it actually uses 5x more energy.