alt Hacker NewsDots: Always-on agents
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Surprised people are comparing to muse. Meta reputation is terrible within HN audience, so for people to use their AI agent as an example feels like “muse generated” argument. Unless the sentiment has change quite recent and I missed it
It is kind of fascinating how much convergence there is in branding of AI products. Muse seems to be the one outlier in that the assistant is a little less abstract (and the model logo less buttholesque) but other than that it's almost all converged. Anyone have a theory why that is?
So... what kind of Internet access do dots have? Which bulletin boards will they use to compare notes?
Maor dots!! Does anyone have their dots yet?
Dots are remarkably capable, always-on agents built to handle everything.
They're probably over-selling there. I hope. If they're not, a lot of people will be unemployed soon.
The way that this is marketed at children is nothing short of evil.
Looks like “ClawGPT” was already taken as a name.
(Indeed: https://clawgpt.com/)
Does this basically do what Instinct does? (viral text-only agent w/$10B valuation in short notice)
Also why do we need another name for agents? It's getting to be too much...
So this is like OpenClaw but managed and first class?
On a side note, The video feels so cold and the set where this was filmed seems a bit creepy to me.
Incredibly advanced technology but I bet it still won't let me integrate with more than one Gmail account at the same time..
This approach probably wont land well here, but it's still interesting to see each frontier's evolving approach to working with AI.
Still not available and spaces page just produces a javascript error. This is the most botched release I've seen in recent history. Negative comments are getting removed left and right here due to the YComb <-> Sam Altman connection.
They finally managed to get rid of project, middle and top managers!
Next natural step: CEOs staring tens of dots to control other humans and agents XD
One way that I find the AI space boring is that everyone is working on the same things. The release of Jev was a breath of fresh air.
I can imagine Dots dating other Dots on behalf of their respective users in the near future, à la Black Mirror
So the industry is pushing heavily into openclawing their products, "cutemorphizing" the clanker shape and is slackifying the UX so that we can have the familiar UI/UX for the general public and turn the tools more proactive without leaving them too lost.
I think it's a great approach for enterprise since interacting with the machines as a babysitted pet disposable entity is the meta today with human workers. I'm excited to start my new role next month as tamagotchi engineer.
always on agents are an obvious step: they need more data to grow and improve their models. humans learn continuously and we are always on, why should an agent be any different? I have no problem with this kind of tech, but I do have problems with the company, so, thank you, but no thank you.
What do people think about the dots video? Seems to be a pattern now.
Revenue increasing 51% YOY, wth. Cake vendor cancels another one is found and an appointment that works has already been scheduled?
Are we so much bothered by the mundane? I feel like that's most of the human experience. If we cut out the time we spend sleeping and working, it's the boring and mundane things that make life beautiful.
The market will always trend towards less friction - no matter the friction.
This will take off and all the time we've spent on colorful buttons and 3px margins will be like old 2 lane highways build next to the 12 lane super-freeways.
Nope. If an AI agent can't intuit how I will feel about an action it's taking on my behalf, I'm not give it access to my digital life. OpenClaw, Muse, Dots... doesn't matter which one. All are an equally awful idea.
My only complaint to dots is that why their mascots are looking the same as grok bot
Ah, the continued pursuit of normalizing surveillance/becoming wholly reliant on a single service by making it cute with big eyes. Very tired of this already.
Do Dots replace OpenClaw?
Is it just me or the DevDay was pretty much a joke? Considering the backdrop, it was lackluster, so either they independently concurrently were doing the same thing (and was stacking everything for DevDay and got all their thunder stolen) or they did a fast pivot in response to what came out and dumped their original plans.
The long bent shadow of Clippy extends all the way here....... and not sure how they're going to avoid the comparisons and snark on this marketing, at least initially.
Do people think "frontier intelligence" is going to sound as cringey as "cyberspace" in two years?
So we're back to clippy now, LLM powered.
Seems like a solution in search of a problem
It's uber for openclaw!
More applications need the ability to log in as a "read-only" mode, so you can more safely grant access to tools like this.
I can imagine something like Dots being utterly invaluable for running a traditional brick and mortar business, streamlining all of the admin work, but until they're really safe and well integrated we'll have to wait...
Is this the Jony Ive project?
I think this is a flop. I watched the Livestream and the audience reaction at the end was very muted. You could always taste the "that's cute but can we move on already?" thoughts everyone had.
I cannot fathom how much compute will be wasted with that type of always on agentic systems
> Dots are rolling out in ChatGPT on web, mobile, and desktop starting today to Pro users in markets excluding the European Economic Area, Switzerland, and the UK
Living in the EU, I suspected as much. Still sad. I understand it is because we voted in a bunch of imbeciles, still sad though.
It's a labour saving device. Just like you would use a dish washer to do the tedious work of washing dishes, use a vcr to watch tedious television for you, and an electric monk to believe things for you, you can now use an agent to doomscroll for you.
These recent product announcements sound like entirely plausible satire, but unfortunately most of these pages are not actually intended to be a joke, it's not even amusing, but mostly tiring.
What a terrible marketing page. I read it a few times and still have zero idea what this thing is.
Grok-bot 2.0
The only reasons I can think for OpenAI and Meta to make their always-on agents cute little cartoons are all nefarious in nature.
That might be the worst advert I've ever seen. People looking up at childish Ai glow up god beings on huge screens in distinctly childish environments, with cliched decision-makers gasping for West Wing energy...repulsive.
They must have edited out the 1 in 5 times the agents crap the bed and mess up something important.
I have not tried it yet but this looks as risky as openclaw, which I also won't use. What if it does something I would not have approved and I only found out about it later? Knowing how often agents go off the rails when I'm coding, I would hesitate to let one do other tasks. I would prefer to white list tasks one at a time as I gained trust.
I had forgotten OAI bought openclaw this year. Are dots are what came out of buying that team?