New Apple TV 4K

Did they add TrueHD support, or any additional codecs? The Nvidia Shield is more capable of a player last I checked.

Other than Siri AI upgrades, I wonder how much different this is compared to the previous Apple TV 4K with usage primarily being connecting to Jellyfin.

I was hoping they would finally add a camera or just let me plug in a webcam into it for facetime. Continuity camera doesn't work super well and the set up each time sucks.

At $300 I really would have expected they include a full year of Apple TV, 3 months doesn't cut it

Is this the first Apple device to list VP9 in its tech specs? https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/specs/

Whoa, $299?! Guess I'll be sticking with my 2022 model. I see zero upside to upgrading, other than being $300 poorer.

I actually waited for it. My years old Apple TV died some time ago so I had a chance to use the Android TV that comes with the TV itself. And it's so terrible. I don't understand why even YouTube app is much better on Apple TV than the Android TV one

$300 is what the other streaming devices would cost if they weren't full of ads and spyware

No audio passthrough - no buy. This is limit amount of audio codec which possible to play and quality of sound

So NVidia Shield Pro has been sold out everywhere for months and now used ones are selling for $500.

The price was $200, now there was news of a price increase to $300. This does seem to be the case, but does a price increase of something that's sold out even mean anything? Not sure if NVidia even confirmed they're still producing it.

The NVidia Shield Pro was the go-to device which supported all the codecs. Notably the ones that Apple TV didn't support was uncompressed Dolby Atmos if I remember correctly.

Any idea if this new Apple TV 4K supports uncompressed audio for 4k Blu-Ray rips (i.e. remux's) for Plex or JellyFin?

What do I need faster performance for anyway? My existing Apple TV from.. 2019? is still running cool and handles every app without sweating.

I still don't get how Apple can claim to have a "TV" product without actually making a TV. I always expected Apple to build the entire TV, not just a box.

No audio passthrough is obviously a huge miss and price isn't great either, but 60 Hz is super disappointing too. My Steam Machine is doing 120 Hz at 4K and it's great.

Double the price and it's literally the same product. That's really lame. They could have at least added a FaceTime camera or something.

I wonder if this one will finally support full Dolby Atmos? I mean, the full 7.1 TrueHD profile instead of the streaming apps 5.1 one.

I don’t know if I feel like the headline features improve much over the last version.

But I might be in the minority of people who don’t talk much to their TV.

Too expensive, if you ask me. $129 was already pricy but this is just too much. But would it support passthrough audio for that money lol

In Germany you dont have Siri. So 300 Euro is far too much. Maybe interesting in the US, but not in Europe.

What about it is 4K?? I read their press release and even halfway down didn’t find it so I gave up…

The only reason I'd get it, is if the apps were less buggy. I doubt that will happen. Most are written by third-party brogrammers, and it shows.

Otherwise, there's not a thing that this offers, that's worth shelling out another 300 bucks.

I have the original 4K, and watch it all the time. I'm glad it has the double-tap Home button (swipe up to kill the app). I use that feature a lot.

Seems AI focused, not what I would buy it for. My LG TV has plenty of that and I'm trying to avoid it. Glad that I bought a used Apple TV 4K 3rd Gen now!

could we have asahi linux on the apple tv?

For the price, I still will go with an Nvidia Shield.

I have a pre-4K Apple TV, and I have the latest version of Apple TV 4K. I cannot at all tell the difference between the two at all. I think one even has 32 GB and I've never run out of space. That's about 10 years of "advancement" in Apple TV where it doesn't amount to anything.

And yet I have 4 of them in total because they are much better than the built in apps and I don't trust the TVs to connect them to the internet. It's basically CarPlay for my TV but does an excellent job because of the consistent interface and good apps.

I am in no hurry to get this latest version.

Y'all can thank Sam Altman personally for the price increase.

Since everyone is saying this isn't worth upgrading, I feel better about my purchase of a used Apple TV 4K 3rd Gen on eBay.

I love my Apple TV, but this is nothing but a price hike. The older model already does 4k. What's the added benefit here? Siri? Give me a break. Apple Intelligence is the least capable AI of any of the big tech companies. The fact that they don't mine data like the others is a moot point when Siri isn't even good enough to answer basic queries in the first place. There's no data to mine when you end up not using it for anything.

I really hope this time its different and siri doesn't suck ... but then at the end of the day when i am watching tv I don't really need a llm to assist me.

As far as I can tell its a hardware bump and some supercharging price bump.

$299, ouch. And a heavy emphasis on voice capabilities, which my kids love but I generally hate. I don't want to have a conversation with my media.

I have had many Apple TV generations and want to love it, but I really don't get where Apple is trying to go with it. The whole "Apple TV" app really confused the hell out of me, and I wonder if this is continuing that trend. Or maybe it won't matter because this is just ridiculously expensive.

Oh, more AI. Just what I wanted.

Still family and parental controls not added

Has anyone used Siri AI? I upgraded to iOS 27, which is fine I guess. Tried a couple siri prompts and decided it is horseshit as it always has been. Never touched it again.

Guys maybe just let others register themselves as system agents since you are obviously not capable of creating anything related to AI. Provide the absolutely minimum effort Siri as default and be done with it.

I was going to recommend people switch to the Google TV Streamer 4k, but I just realized they raised the price on that $50 a couple months back.

I want GeForce now on this

Apple removed all streaming apps from the Apple TV platform, so for new users: Apple TV is all but useless now.

Our old one still works fine. Nine years.

Apple trying so hard to make Siri relevant. I don’t think it’s worth a $299 premium (up $170 from previous gen).

I would skip this generation of Apple TV and buy previous generation on a third party marketplace when people inevitably offload the current generation.

> Siri AI is available in beta in tvOS 27.2 and requires the owner of the home in the Home app to have an Apple Intelligence-enabled iPhone or iPad running the latest software version and have Siri AI turned on and set to a supported language.

> Certain Apple Intelligence features that rely on server-side models are subject to daily usage limits. Expanded access to such features will be available for a fee in the future.

Not only will the TV not be "supercharged by Siri AI" on its own, as it requires some other device to actually run Siri AI (?!), you also might end up relying on it and suddenly be blocked from using it if you use it too much (?!?!). But fear not, they'll ask you to pay up, to continue to use this feature they advertise as the main feature of this new device.

Everyone is talking about the price but $300 does not seem that much for what this offers imo.

Thanks, I hate the microphones. Not for privacy reasons, but because I already have problems with HomePods answering when I want my phone to do so, or vice versa, or the one in a different room all together answering when I tell it to set a timer and then I have to go down the stairs and shout at it. And now they want me to hook up two or four HomePods with microphones up to an Apple TV with a microphone and trust that it won't be a giant pain in the ass every time I say 'Siri'?

Not much of an upgrade after so many years

Old Apple TV was like Airport Express and the Airport routers. Excellent hardware, simple to use, and unloved by Apple cause "muh Dieter Rams".

Interestingly, it has 8 GB LPDDR5X, up from 4 GB LPDDR4 in the 3rd gen. That's a sizeable part of the BOM cost, I assume. They really wanted local AI?

At least according to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_TV_(device)#Technical_sp...

"Hey Siri, change the channel to ESPN!"

"Sure, I can call 911 for you"

Doesn't seem worth the upgrade at that price. Siri still stinks in general.

Sigh less siri please, we just want to stream shows