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Investor-owned utilities charge 23% more for electricity than public providers

493 points • by hubraumhugo • today at 1:41 PM • 343 comments • view on HN

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javcasas • today at 2:12 PM

Do we also have a study on the quality of service provided by investor-owned vs public providers?

I mean, both sides claim to have the better quality, so let's see who actually has it.

metalliqaz • today at 2:03 PM

Is anyone surprised by the profit motive?

injidup • today at 2:25 PM

Some research suggests that clustering simply on public vs private is correlation not causation. Many public utilities in the USA are clustered around hydro electric system and dense urban system whilst private utilities pick up the more expensive to run and traditionally less well serviced markets.

InsidiousWombat • today at 1:47 PM

Privatization of utilities was always bad idea. We had a lot of it in Poland, mostly driven by "govt owning it is communism, we want to get away from what" and it just made it near universally worse

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marcusverus • today at 3:16 PM

The argument for private industry was never that they would always charge lower prices per unit, but that they would produce things more efficiently--at a lower cost per unit. Of course public providers can charge lower prices. Their sales revenues aren't their only source of funds! So the mere fact that they charge lower prices doesn't necessarily indicate lower total cost, since the low prices may simply be a subsidy which is shorn up with tax dollars.

A case in point would be the Mamdani stores that are being launched in New York City. They'll be offering groceries at a steep discount. Socialist activists could then turn around and write headlines like "private-owned grocery stores charge x% more for groceries than public providers", but would that mean that public groceries have overall lower costs than private ones? Obviously not. It would be foolish to use price data to argue that the public model is somehow better than the private one. You would need to know whether the point-of-sale savings represent actual savings to the consumer, or whether the difference is being paid in some other way.

It doesn't do consumers any good to pay $50 less their utility bill if that $50 savings is made possible by charging an additional $60 in state and local taxes.

tianji-astrolog • today at 3:38 PM

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eethrowaway • today at 2:33 PM

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benji-york • today at 1:53 PM

Alternate headline: "Public utilities subsidize 19% of electricity charges."

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