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Microsoft offers mass buyouts for roughly a quarter of its workforce

667 points • by doctorzook • today at 3:35 PM • 566 comments • view on HN

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r0m4n0 • today at 3:53 PM

Paywalled so I can’t see the details but was it offered to 25% assuming much less would actually accept? I have to assume a minority take the deal

2OEH8eoCRo0 • today at 3:50 PM

They only had $281bn in revenue last year.

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Mithriil • today at 6:13 PM

A quarter were asked. That seems like a lot.

It does seem a bit of a fortuitous timing, with Anthropic IPO S-1 just dropping..

tinyhouse • today at 5:02 PM

The writing was on the wall for a long time. All of big tech (and many midsize tech too) have way too many employees. In the AI era is just more absurd than it was before. I always appreciate companies that take care of their employees this way so kudos to Microsoft. We haven't seen the package they are offering yet but I'm assuming it'd going to be very good, esp for those who have been there for a while.

rvz • today at 3:45 PM

Maybe Microsoft achieved AGI internally.

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nisegami • today at 3:40 PM

Is there any reason not to take the buyout?

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hereme888 • today at 4:09 PM

Look at this corporate-slop-speak for how they say "we're firing people":

"more ways for employees to shape their next chapter".

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tonymet • today at 7:08 PM

Presumably AI is making everyone, particularly sales & marketing more productive. While at the same time, their customers are building more things, and selling more things.

Why a force reduction?

Ignore AI for a second. If you had a magic wand, that would help everyone at your company produce more, sell more, and all of your customers are producing and selling more, would that be a growth phase?

apercu • today at 6:47 PM

You know what MS also did on Friday? Used auto update to wipe out all Mac Office 2021 Licenses to try to trick people in to 365 subs.

nemo44x • today at 5:49 PM

> At the same time, we'll keep helping people focus on the work that matters most, build new skills, and, where it makes sense, find new opportunities across Microsoft.

Anthropic is already doing this - some software engineers have redeployed into research roles, for example. “Redeploying” is going to be the latest HR trend I think.

VCFundedGenYer • today at 5:28 PM

Microsoft laying off (and yes, this is a layoff, no matter how it's spun) 25% of the entire freaking company is not a sign of a healthy organization.

You can't and won't tell me with a straight face that AI will replace them.

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dyauspitr • today at 6:13 PM

This is the biggest recent tech news over even maybe the last five years. This isn’t like Twitter, where the layoffs were arbitrary

etchalon • today at 3:40 PM

Jesus. 25% is ... a lot.

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drusepth • today at 5:03 PM

How does the job role break down for these 60k workers? Are they mostly devs? Other roles?

Can't read the article because of the paywall.

newbie578 • today at 4:43 PM

You are all getting a first row seat to watching the death of an industry.

I wonder where are all those AI apologists who have been touting here for years that jobs will not go away?

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mschuster91 • today at 5:12 PM

Yeah, there is no way this will not make the horrible issues at Microsoft even a tiny bit better.

Azure is an epic shitshow (to be fair, GCP is even worse, but eh). Github is seriously struggling staying up and alive. Windows updates are posing more of a danger for business continuity than the security issues they fix, which is a challenge in itself. Windows itself is being made irrelevant as more and more software moves for SaaS web models and the gaming flank is being eaten left and right by SteamOS/Proton/WINE, what's left of Windows Embedded after CE got terminated looong ago (that was the foundation for a lot of HMI stuff) is being replaced by Android or straight Linux on Raspberry Pi style devices. Office 365 is buggy as hell (and in the case of Outlook, a horribly bloated Electron mess). Wide masses resent Windows itself for the bloatware, espionage and advertising that's forced down your throat.

And to make the already bad situation even worse, the Trump government made American Big Tech their bitch and everyone but the US is now looking to divest from them as fast as possible.

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apercu • today at 4:54 PM

Wow, while I think that large headcount often leads to terrible products (looks at Apple for the last 5 years), MS platforms and software are SO BAD and more un-supervised AI slop code isn't going to fix it. I never want anyone to lose their job but this seems like a massive reduction.

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yxhuvud • today at 3:42 PM

Paywall.

Selector8801 • today at 9:38 PM

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AchivoSuperMan • today at 8:30 PM

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lelandbatey • today at 3:56 PM

Text of the memo driving this, from an article posted by Business Insider [0]: Introducing a Voluntary Exit Offer

    Today, we're introducing a new Voluntary Exit Offer (VEO) to
    eligible employees within participating organizations. This offer
    gives eligible employees who may be considering a future outside the
    company a new choice to make that transition now with support. It
    also gives participating orgs another way to adapt their workforce
    to changing needs.

    The Voluntary Exit Offer reflects an important part of how we're
    evolving our approach to change: creating greater flexibility and,
    where possible, more ways for employees to shape their next chapter.
    This builds on what we learned earlier this year through the
    Voluntary Retirement Program.

    What employees should know

    This offer will be available to eligible employees in participating
    teams in Canada, India, United Kingdom and United States at level 70
    and below. This is a time-limited, voluntary program that gives
    those who are eligible the opportunity to leave Microsoft with
    financial support and career planning resources. Some organizations
    are providing the Voluntary Exit Offer, and some are not.
    Participation varies based on each business's priorities, customer
    commitments, and workforce needs.

    Eligible employees will receive an email with a link to their
    Voluntary Exit Offer details within the next few hours.

    Looking ahead

    The Voluntary Exit Offer is new for us. We'll learn from it. At the
    same time, we'll keep helping people focus on the work that matters
    most, build new skills, and, where it makes sense, find new
    opportunities across Microsoft. There is no one-size-fits-all
    approach for every team or every employee. These are a few of the
    ways we're trying to meet different business needs while continuing
    to create opportunities for our own people to grow and contribute.

    My promise is to continue to provide clarity, listen and learn, and
    keep improving.

    Thank you for everything you continue to do for our customers,
    Microsoft, and for one another.

    Amy
[0] - https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-is-offering-buyout...
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123-18hv • today at 4:20 PM

Remember, people, that Microsoft is a reformed company that supports open source and DEI Anything else was flagged up to 2025. Now that they have stolen all open source they fire people.

But some people here have a short memory and already support the new thieves on the block Anthropic and OpenAI.