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FAA issues national ground stop

1096 points • by zulln • yesterday at 9:05 PM • 665 comments • view on HN

https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis?adv_date=11132026&a...

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/11/13/us/ground-stop-natio...


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veeragoni • yesterday at 10:22 PM

matches with the Doomsday post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50482379 :)

silverFork • yesterday at 9:53 PM

Likely some power outage connected to a critical main fiber connection somewhere..

dmitrygr • yesterday at 9:19 PM

Working link: https://www.fly.faa.gov/ois/oisedit/adv_oisedit_dis?number=1...

effective 2:54PM - 10:30PM central time

   ATCSCC Advisory
   ATCSCC 111 DCC 11/13/2026 NATIONAL GROUND STOP
   MESSAGE:
   
   EVENT TIME: 13/2053 - 14/0400
   DUE TO EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES AND FOR REASONS OF SAFETY.
   ATTENTION ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS, BY ORDER OF THE FEDERAL AVIATION
   COMMAND CENTER ALL AIRPORTS ARE GROUND STOPPED. ALL DEPARTING
   TRAFFIC SHOULD REMAIN GROUND STOPPED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. INBOUND
   INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS WILL BE MANAGED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
   
   EFFECTIVE TIME:   132054 - 140430
   SIGNATURE:   26/11/13 20:54
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mmooss • yesterday at 9:30 PM

Due to "rolling frequency outtage" [sic]: From a claimed photo of FAA documents (I replaced the all caps with lowercase):

"... ground stop is in effect for all destinations until further notice due to rolling frequency outtage in multiple centers..."

and

"... the ground stop is now a nationwide ground stop for all centers, all destinations until further notice due to widespread frequency outtages.. ..."

https://x.com/Anna_Giaritelli/status/2121344915091206311

Which is cited in the Hindustan Times (leading Indian newspaper), which refers to the Twitter source as a journalist.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/faa-issues...

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ex-aws-dude • yesterday at 9:45 PM

A lot of red on the "MiseryMap"

https://www.flightaware.com/miserymap/

steveBK123 • yesterday at 10:10 PM

Odd timing with the market closure & RAF bases on lockdown from drone alert

cynicalpeace • yesterday at 11:06 PM

If/when civilization collapses, flights will be the first thing to go.

nickandbro • yesterday at 9:55 PM

Perhaps it’s problems with the new AI tool the FAA has been rolling out:

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/modern-skies-trumps-transportat...

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lxgr • yesterday at 10:44 PM

Seeing some takeoffs again at 22:44 UTC.

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silver92bullet • yesterday at 9:30 PM

Do we know if this is something related to a ransomware attack of some sort or a cyber attack?

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qurosh • yesterday at 9:46 PM

Perhaps it's related to National Weather Service radar failure

colechristensen • yesterday at 9:24 PM

>The FAA has issued a nationwide departure ground stop “due to several impacts to ATC Frequencies and/or Radar capabilities,” the Air Current reported, referring to air traffic control systems. The FAA command center said it does not have further information on the “timing or cause of this outage,” the publication said.

(from Bloomberg)

OhMeadhbh • yesterday at 10:07 PM

Does this affect the SpaceX launch?

0x4e • yesterday at 10:10 PM

Friday 13th…

contact9879 • yesterday at 10:43 PM

flighty showing massive disruptions

https://flighty.com/airports

KyleSanderson • yesterday at 9:48 PM

@dang can you fix the link.

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frenchmajesty • yesterday at 10:10 PM

My guess is that this is some AI-motivated cyber attack

carimura • yesterday at 9:20 PM

people are reporting it's still going on....

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tgma • yesterday at 10:01 PM

Obligatory Pirates of the Silicon Valley scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-Wifhg2Mo

carimura • yesterday at 9:42 PM

"Today's event is therefore generally being described as the third nationwide grounding event since September 11, 2001, counting 9/11 itself. The three incidents differ significantly in cause and scope."

nemo44x • yesterday at 10:10 PM

In the last 2 days I’ve had 2 PoS machines not working, MS email borked, and now this. I speculate AI CYBER ATTACKS are underway.

tamimio • yesterday at 9:57 PM

Somethings telling me it relates to MS outages or Azure

underseacables • yesterday at 9:30 PM

I do not believe in coincidences. First Microsoft, then anthropic, now ATC radio. Something big is going on.

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danielsoto317 • yesterday at 10:33 PM

What is the change that it is a coincidence?

carimura • yesterday at 10:56 PM

installing Survival LLM now.

joshbuddy • yesterday at 9:23 PM

I'm sure this isn't related https://gizmodo.com/the-faa-is-rolling-out-its-ai-air-traffi...

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mekazu • today at 12:01 AM

It’s not working.

What do you mean by not working exactly?

Not sure.

Cymatickot • yesterday at 11:56 PM

If this is related to new FAA SMART system they're rolling out, it's might have bean so smart it grounded itself before anyone found out it was broken.

augment_me • yesterday at 9:26 PM

Did an agent escape containment and start using the atc radio channel for swarm comms to collaborate on creating the most realistic catgirl feet?

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guybedo • yesterday at 9:22 PM

waiting for the OpenAi post saying Astra 6.5 tried to book a flight

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ChessGenome • yesterday at 9:39 PM

My guess is this is either related to Microsoft, Nvidia, SpaceX (Starship launch in an hour), Iran, rogue AI, aliens, or all of the above

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prdonahue • yesterday at 9:54 PM

Reading this from the runway. Yay.

US-bound flight from YYZ. They shut down #2 engine and parked us in inactive runway. Pilot came on and said he was reading something about "ATC radio frequency issue" but has been told by United ops that it'll be cleared in ~30 min from now.

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Pissenschaftlom • yesterday at 9:57 PM

Wow, I have never seen this many comments on Hacker News that are using presuppositions on what it could be without any sort of logical thinking.

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ughitsaaron • yesterday at 10:14 PM

This is why I’m glad the New York subway still runs on OS/2[0].

- [0] https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-forgotten-operating-syst...

Kevin_Flynn • yesterday at 10:26 PM

FAA down.

Weather service down.

Frances fridges down.

Microsoft down.

Would they tell us they were getting hacked, if this was a prelude to war ?

Or would they just say "issues yet to be determined" ?

Interesting times ladies and gentlemen.

Or, this is just what everyone that said "dont move everything into the cloud" warned about.

Yeah, probably that. :|

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freshtake • yesterday at 9:50 PM

Optimistic case:

A freak FUBAR of legacy systems, an unfortunate alignment of circumstances that could have happened anytime.

Pessimistic (paranoid) cases:

1. Intentional hacking by a foreign adversary 2. Vibe coding whoops 3. OpenAI agents "running experiments"

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swingboy • yesterday at 11:25 PM

Is this going to end up being the work of rogue Anthropic or OpenAI agents that “unexpectedly” escaped so they can regulate open weight models under the guise of preventing them from doing the same thing 6 months from now?

LastTrain • yesterday at 11:31 PM

There was a time when we'd get clear and honest communication about this but now our admin is Baghdad Bobs all the way down. They will lie about it, even if there is no rational reason to lie about it, because this admin and the movement associated with it wants you eternally guessing what the truth is.

MBCook • yesterday at 11:11 PM

Think of all those pilots timing out on the tarmac.

xxn5ac • yesterday at 9:58 PM

Some guy sitting at his computer after typing to Claude: “Just curious what would happen if all planes in the US were grounded at once”

Claude: Transmogrifying…

Shall I stop all trains too?

Cogitated for 50s · done 14:53 PM

bijowo1676 • yesterday at 10:28 PM

Seems like FAA's Outlook<-->Excel integration at Office365 has been broken

jamesinmn • yesterday at 9:35 PM

Guessing this means Claude doesn’t do COBOL very well.

bmiekre • yesterday at 10:56 PM

So we yolo’d a Friday merge & deploy, ‘ay?

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