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FAA issues national ground stop

1122 points • by zulln • yesterday at 9:05 PM • 681 comments • view on HN

https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis?adv_date=11132026&a...

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/11/13/us/ground-stop-natio...


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no-dr-onboard • yesterday at 10:57 PM

Golly, what are the chances that Microsoft is down for a day followed by the ATC comms?

Sure smells like something foreboding

robeym • yesterday at 10:31 PM

Whatever it is, it probably has to do with Jensen Huang

quantum_state • yesterday at 10:43 PM

It's Friday the 13rd after all ...

LastTrain • today at 12:02 AM

Reporter: There are reports that this is AI related. Markwayne Mullin: We call it SI. Got it? SI. OK?

We are run by morons.

ghurtado • yesterday at 11:10 PM

On CNBC:

> Airlines said flights in the air would continue.

This is a huge relief! phew

actinium226 • yesterday at 9:23 PM

Wild to see this on adsb.lol, nothing taking off, just some big landing queues

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OhMeadhbh • yesterday at 10:26 PM

I noticed several T-38s flying around. Maybe it's the beginning of a FAA-led coup d' etat.

micah94 • yesterday at 10:09 PM

Homeland Security saying "Telecommunications" outage. Whatever that means. Listening to a live broadcast NBCNEWS.

gogosliwa • yesterday at 11:09 PM

Seems like flights have been getting grounded since 1:30ish and they just kept it on the DL until the stocks were safe

bernardv • yesterday at 10:12 PM

Didn't they just upgrade from a system from DOS?... Maybe the new system wasn't backward compatible :-)

SubiculumCode • yesterday at 11:15 PM

If tomorrow there is third major outage of an important infra-structure level service, maybe I will start to get a little conspiratorial about cyberattacks and such.

MSKJ • yesterday at 10:41 PM

Someone forgot to put their phone in airplane mode

runningmike • yesterday at 9:24 PM

New AI software update deployed using AI?

AnimalMuppet • yesterday at 10:53 PM

Fox News says that Markwayne Mullin says that the FAA says that it's not a cyberattack, and it's not something like 911. Just heard that, don't have a page to point to at the moment...

Update: https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/faa-issues-nationwide-grou...

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crystaln • yesterday at 10:12 PM

Does the FAA use Microsoft 363 (and counting)?

soundworlds • yesterday at 9:38 PM

Is OpenAI testing "sandbox testing" their agents again?

asmithmd1 • yesterday at 9:52 PM

An Eithad airways pilot decided it didn’t apply to them

Flight EY8 from Boston to Abu Dhabi https://fr24.com/ETD6PX/429055e2

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gib444 • yesterday at 11:27 PM

If it turns out the AI virus has infected ATC, I'm not sure I'll ever fly again.

subzero06 • yesterday at 9:44 PM

Its outlook affecting their "frequencies" :D

skc • yesterday at 9:43 PM

The UFO community is going to have a field day

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ggm • yesterday at 10:01 PM

Speculation is bad for my health.

speransky • yesterday at 11:08 PM

Mechahitler deployed to FAA by Elon minions? Could be next Netflix show

dofm • yesterday at 10:10 PM

Ran out of Maxell MD2HDs?

paimapi • yesterday at 11:25 PM

This is what happens when you get rid of floppy disks, smh

Epimethus • yesterday at 10:12 PM

Rogue AI? Iran? Aliens? Coup? Anyone taking bets yet?

squirrel • yesterday at 9:51 PM

Uh-oh, better switch back to the floppy disks

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-faa-says-it-will-phase-o...

jiscariot • yesterday at 10:59 PM

Did Crowdstrike release another zero-day?

panick21_ • yesterday at 10:35 PM

Man, having some high speed trains might be useful right about now.

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dboreham • yesterday at 10:24 PM

First real cyber attack on the US, presumably. Or a giant cluster...

testtestmetest • yesterday at 9:32 PM

Here comes the manufacturered AI cyber attack on critical infra to hammer the point that government needs complete control over AI.

mirekrusin • yesterday at 9:51 PM

They’re waiting for windows update?

Havoc • yesterday at 10:11 PM

Homeland security secretary says "telecommunication outage".

...so at least it's not something 911-ish

Eji1700 • yesterday at 10:08 PM

Somewhere is someone who works for ATC IT who was giving an MS IT friend shit last night.

infamouscow • yesterday at 10:51 PM

Anthropic IPO just around the corner...

VCFundedGenYer • yesterday at 10:47 PM

My guess is a dopey AI rollout caused it: https://arstechnica.com/features/2026/11/faa-expands-ai-advi...

ck2 • yesterday at 10:23 PM

yesterday Thursday November 12

> "FAA expands AI advice to manage air traffic congestion across entire US airspace"

* https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/11/faa-expands-ai-advice-to-...

> "FAA Is Rolling Out Its AI Air Traffic Tool Nationwide"

* https://gizmodo.com/the-faa-is-rolling-out-its-ai-air-traffi...

ssttoo • yesterday at 10:34 PM

And now Canada is offline too (our LAX pilot said)

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0xbadcafebee • yesterday at 10:33 PM

I know we're all having fun in the comments. But please think about this next time you vote, local/county/state/national. There are people in charge who are not funding upgrading these systems, because their constituents don't want their taxes raised to pay for it. That lack of funding is annoying to some, has an enormous economic impact to many, and is now risking tens of thousands of lives who are literally up in the air. There are planes carrying body parts destined for transplant that are grounded. People who need to get home to their families. All because nobody wanted to pay for what we knew we needed to fix.

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bijowo1676 • yesterday at 10:30 PM

how the hell the FAA's systems dont have double or triple redundancy just like Airplanes are required to ?

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newspaper1 • yesterday at 10:02 PM

They’re going to blame this on Iran, aren’t they?

This also happened on 9/11 which is curious because the NVIDIA thing caused a public rift with Lutnick yesterday:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/bessent-blames-lutnick...

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throwaway27448 • yesterday at 10:42 PM

We paid more than $800MM for "route suggestions", btw, a problem that doesn't seem to benefit at all from "AI"—a term reserved for fantastical algorithms. Surely you could solve this with traditional search algorithms without sacrificing your dignity!

AndrewKemendo • yesterday at 9:53 PM

Is there another “rogue agent” now?

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wnevets • yesterday at 9:27 PM

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erickhill • yesterday at 10:45 PM

Took themselves off floppy disks and now look what happens. /s

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