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Carriers in the US will block further texts from the number. The problem is it’s easy to get more numbers to spam from. This unfortunately makes it super hard for legit businesses to send transactional texts. (And Google is leading the charge in marketing ‘new features’ as a ‘transactional’ emails and push notifications)

The undeniable way to stop spam texts is to litigate. You’re put onto special lists at “number reputation” “data brokers” and the texts magically stop.

At up to $1500/violation, there are a lot of lawyers out there willing to help out with this.


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smcin10/01/2024

> The undeniable way to stop spam texts is to litigate

People here are saying that doesn't work on political orgs, does it?

adastra2210/01/2024

Doesn't work for political texts, which aren't violations.

dredmorbius10/03/2024

Blacklist contact management does not work.

Whitelist does.

Perhaps reputation-based / fee-based systems as well, where an origin number (or network) has a given reputation, puts forth a bond against abuse claims, and pays a sizeable penalty for each message after the first (or perhaps some n number of claims) on which an abuse claims is placed.

This is effectively the Metafilter mechanism, in which participants pay $5 for an account. Payment mechanisms are flexible, third parties may sponsor accounts, etc. On abuse that fee is forfeit. Casual activity is unlikely to trigger this. Malicious abuse gets expensive fast.

The reason for permitting a few freebies is to allow for services such as mailing lists or other mass distributions which might find themselves specifically targeted. What's being tested is the capacity to rapidly address any claim of unwanted contact and not repeat it, not to simply penalise each instance of abuse.

Again, the really bad spammers are generating millions or billions of messages per month. Not a few dozens or hundreds. Those are the key targets of countermeasures.

E.g., "FCC slaps $300M fine on “largest illegal robocall operation” it’s ever seen" (2023)

The fined party made "more than five billion robocalls to more than 500 million phone numbers during a three-month span in 2021".

<https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/08/fcc-slaps-300m-f...>