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In my experience, that's not true. Rather, people are much too quick to jump to the conclusion that so-and-so is a bot (or a troll, a shill, a foreign agent, etc.), when the other's views are outside the range of what feels normal to them.

I've written a lot of about this dynamic because it's so fundamental. Here are some of the longer posts (mini essays really):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39158911 (Jan 2024)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35932851 (May 2023)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725 (June 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098 (May 2020)

Since HN has many users with different backgrounds from all over the world, it has a lot of user pairs (A, B) where A's views don't seem normal to B and vice versa. This is why we have the following rule, which has held up well over the years:

"Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email [email protected] and we'll look at the data." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


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JohnMakin10/01/2024

In my research and experience, it is. I’m making no comment about bots/shills on this site, either, I’m responding to the plausibility of the original comment.

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imiric10/01/2024

Hey, I would appreciate if you could address some of my questions here[1].

I do think it's unrealistic to believe that there is absolutely zero bot activity, so at least some of those accusations might be true.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41711060

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