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US man, 81, sentenced to six months for creating giant hybrid sheep for hunting

58 pointsby wwarner10/01/202434 commentsview on HN

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AStonesThrow10/01/2024

He literally succeeded in performing a literal cloning of a complex mammalian subject? How rich is this guy, how well-staffed his lab, how is he achieving things that state-level labs struggle to do?

I am unsure whether I believe that this was an actual cloning, and not just some sort of old-fashioned hybridization or something. Because this guy should be awarded a science medal instead. What really is the legal issue with creating your own mammals just to be held captive and hunted for food?

It seems weird, but unsurprising, they'd throw the book at him, and make an example of him, lest someone else strike out on their own with such a complex biomedical challenge!

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gnabgib10/01/2024

Related Montana Man Pleads to Federal Charges for Efforts to Create Giant Hybrid Sheep (26 points, 7 months ago, 76 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39693368

agamemnomnomnom10/01/2024

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/13/montana-ranc...

Better explaination of actual charges.

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illwrks10/01/2024

It states “his illegal breeding operation was widespread, involved other states and endangered the health of other wildlife”… I bet the cloning/hybrid animal is only the headline piece and there is way more to the story than is let on. Perhaps a ‘Tiger King’ of sorts?..

leobg10/01/2024

Makes me want to clone sheep and cows and chickens and release them in Montana… just in protest for sending an old man who admits his guilt and pays the price to prison.

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Ancalagon10/01/2024

This is kind of legendary. Although I understand the dangers presented by letting non sterilized new species out into the wild.

scohesc10/01/2024

It's a bit difficult to figure out what specifically the guy was being arrested for and I had to re-read the article 2-3 times.

Looks like the main charges are due to violating the Lacey Act multiple times - shipping the hybrid sheep domestically while labelling them as "pure" sheep, while also conspiring to import embryos/sperm of the Marco Polo Goat (central asian) goat, also illegal without permits/procedures.

If the guy was younger, I'd assume he'd be getting at least football numbers in prison given how long the business was running, etc.

bdjsiqoocwk10/01/2024

I thought that the person's age was often taken into account? I think it's silly to put someone 6mos in jail for creating a hybrid, but it's even worse when we're talking about a 81yo.

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chromatin10/02/2024

Shouldn't be a crime IMO. Hope he wins on appeal.

bdjsiqoocwk10/01/2024

Very light on technical details.

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riffic10/01/2024

wait this is a crime?

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rurban10/03/2024

Land of the free, lol.

shswkna10/02/2024

To the prosecutor: please just get a chill pill, for gods sake.

blackeyeblitzar10/02/2024

I don’t understand what makes this dangerous or criminal, when private enterprises seem to be able to do whatever they want when they create genetically modified organisms and pair it with pesticides with unknown environmental impacts that are sprayed across big portions of the country.