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Given that a few decades ago obesity and overweight rates were nowhere near what they are today, this shows that a large part of the population is weak, fragile, and not very interested in their well-being.

I want to emphasize that a few decades ago, people were much thinner in the Western world and did not hate their lives because they could not eat a triple cheeseburger, go hungry constantly, or feel physically deprived. Those were my parents and my grandparents, I know them.

But if you show them hyper-caloric food that makes them feel like crap, they can't say no. It's disappointing. And the same can be said for addiction to social media, horrible TV series, and constant music everywhere.


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cortesoft10/11/2024

Do you think it is because the people before were mentally stronger? No, it is because they lived in a different environment. If you were to transport those people from decades ago to today, the same portion of them would become obese.

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freeone300010/11/2024

They are the same people now that they were then. Humanity has not become any more weak, fragile, or uninterested in their well-being — it has simply become harder to resist. TV was appointment viewing and cut off late at night. Before the walkman, there wasn’t much option for music everywhere (the scourge was newspaper-readers! but the paper is only so long). And that triple cheeseburger today wasn’t acceptable or available to eat unless you made it yourself. Healthy eating being hard is a product of collective decisions to make it hard.

jodrellblank10/15/2024

It used to be that the devil on the shoulder was the tempter. It isn't depressing that parents and grandparents can't say no to lizard brain instincts, it's depressing that we allow companies to exploit that in a devilishly evil way - to harm people - for money, as much as they can, in almost every way they can think of.

Imagine how much money and time and effort is spent making Doritos 2% more tempting; the crunch, the flavour intensity, the packaging layout, the packaging colours, the mouthfeel, the shelf stability. The same for ice cream and everything else. How far can Kelloggs stretch the gap between the strawberry presented on the packaging and the almost-zero strawberry in the pop tart? Or the honey pictured on the Honey Nut Cheerios box with the "hint of honey" in the description on the back? How To Cook That[1] on YouTube on Kellogg's misleading and potentially misleading claims.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suy3wGzQ08g&list=PLPT0YU_0VL...

FuriouslyAdrift10/11/2024

We used to smoke a lot (an appetite suppressant and mood stabilizer) and also worked physical jobs in factories or farms.

Service jobs are not conducive to good health.

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gmerc10/12/2024

This shows no such thing.

It shows what it shows.

What the explanation is, that actually requires research. Anything from new food additives, changed lifestyle habits forced by the pandemic, increased chronic stress, screen addiction compromising other opportunities to be active, less walkable neighborhoods, more elevators, higher calorie diet, cost increase in healthy diet to just name a fraction of possible factors.

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EasyMark10/12/2024

Or that the situation was different, advertisers hadn’t mastered the 24/7 cycle of selling easy junk food in both home form and fast food form. Every generation thinks they’re superior to the new generation and says “why don’t they just…. “ when a new generational problem comes up. People screaming out against ozempic and friends are just angry that maybe it does work well enough and that people don’t have to struggle for once. Our brains weren’t built for our modern life style. It used to be that people virtually had lots of experience eating Whole Foods, TV was relatively new, parental guidance on “that’s junk food, you can have a little not a lot”, our jobs weren’t built around screens and pecking on keyboards, bombarded by emails and phone calls even after we go home via 1 hour commute each way. It’s easy to say “you’re all a bunch of lazy bums” but it’s also lazy and not true.

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Izkata10/12/2024

> But if you show them hyper-caloric food that makes them feel like crap, they can't say no.

You're looking for "hyperpalatable foods", not hyper-caloric. They're related but distinct.