The people in #1 won’t express it that way.

I was that guy. For a variety of reasons that aren’t relevant i developed insulin resistance over a relatively short time that made it increasingly difficult to lose weight. I’m in my mid 40s, which also makes it difficult.

I got on one of the GLP drugs 18 months ago. I am down 80 pounds, and am running 20 miles a week. I’ll be doing a half marathon in March. Ive dropped the dose twice and still going strong.

Taking the pill made exercise possible. Online everyone likes to apply a moral hazard thing to every discussion. GLP medication twiddled my dopamine system and allowed me to achieve my goals. Period. If you think that makes me weak, I cannot think of anything that I care less about.