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crazygringo10/11/20241 replyview on HN

> Explain to me how uBlock Origin can realistically go from 100,000 to 500,000 dynamic rules down to 30k rules(only 5k of those can be dynamic) in the Lite version without losing the ability to actually block everything?

I don't know and I don't have to. All I know is uBlock Origin Lite is still blocking everything. So it seems like 30K rules is plenty? Like it's not a meaningful difference for end users if it's blocking 99.99% vs 99.9999% of ads?

> No one was saying that adblockers would literally stop working

That's sure what it sounded like. That it would literally be so bad you'd have to switch browsers because of how degraded the experience would be.

> What evidence would you actually accept anyway?

The fact that the adblocking experience was significantly degraded for the average user -- e.g. that now 10% or 25% of ads were getting through.

> And you want me to look at that and go, 'There's no direct evidence of malicious intention there... so perfectly normal and/or acceptable behavior...

Yeah, pretty much. As far as I can tell, security and performance seem to justify the Manifest v3 changes. Occam's Razor says you don't need anything else. If you think there's malicious intention, then the onus of proof is on you.

I was told, time and time again, than Manifest v3 would result in an adblocking experience so bad that people would start switching browsers because of it, that Google was cracking down on adblockers to neuter them. Now that it's here and my adblocking works just as well, maybe even better (if it's sped up page loading times) -- then sorry, as far as I can tell the malicious intention was made-up.


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Dylan1680710/12/2024

> That's sure what it sounded like. That it would literally be so bad you'd have to switch browsers because of how degraded the experience would be.

> I was told, time and time again, than Manifest v3 would result in an adblocking experience so bad that people would start switching browsers because of it

Once enough ads catch up with the new limitations. Right or wrong, we're still too early for that.