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iknowstuff10/12/20243 repliesview on HN

anyone else think 4o is kinda garbage compared to the older gpt4? as well as o1-preview and probably o1-mini.

gpt4 tends to be more accurate than 4o for me.


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airstrike10/12/2024

I sort of do, especially against OG GPT-4 (before turbo)

4o is a bit too lobotomized for my taste. If you try to engage in conversation, nearly every answer after the first starts with "You're absolutely right". Bro, I don't know if I'm right, that's why I'm asking a question!

It's somehow better in _some_ scenarios but I feel like it's also objectively worse in others so it ends up being a wash. It paradoxically looks bad relative to GPT-4 but also makes GPT-4 feel worse when you go back to it...

o1-preview has been growing on me despite its answers also being very formulaic (relative to the OG GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 models which had more "freedom" in how they answered)

iammrpayments10/12/2024

Yes, I use 4o for customer support in multiple languages and sometimes I have to tell it to reply using the customer language, while gpt4 could easily infer it.

csomar10/12/2024

gpt-4o is a weak version of gpt-4 with "steps-instructions". Gpt-4 is just too expensive which is why openAI is releasing all these mini versions.