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CharlesW11/08/20241 replyview on HN

> You can't just add them later, on top of the legacy Mac OS and NeXTSTEP technologies.

Apple can (and has been) since it owns the whole stack, evidenced by the fact that they've been gradually hardening macOS software and hardware for two decades.

It's been gradual enough that most end users haven't noticed, but macOS developers are painfully aware of the security-related issues they have to reckon with in both major and minor updates to macOS. Example:

  https://eclecticlight.co/2024/08/27/launching-apps-in-sonoma-14-6-1-full-security/
  https://eclecticlight.co/2024/08/28/launching-apps-in-sonoma-14-6-1-reduced-security/
  https://eclecticlight.co/2024/08/29/launching-apps-in-sonoma-14-6-1-known-malware/
  https://eclecticlight.co/2024/09/03/launching-apps-in-sonoma-14-6-1-conclusions/

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lapcat11/08/2024

> Apple can (and has been) since it owns the whole stack, evidenced by the fact that they've been gradually hardening macOS software and hardware for two decades.

This is kind of an empty reply. Of course Apple can try and has been trying. The question is whether they can do it successfully, and I would argue it hasn't been successful.

> It's been gradual enough that most end users haven't noticed

This is not true at all. Users have definitely noticed all of the permissions dialogs and other related settings.

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