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talldayolast Tuesday at 4:22 PM3 repliesview on HN

We'll see, I mostly object to the "vultures circling" narrative that HN seems to be attached to. Intel's current position is not unprecedented, and people have been speculating Intel would have a rough catchup since the "14nm+++" memes were vogue. But they still have their fabs (and wisely spun it out to it's own business) and their chip designs, while pretty faulty, successfully brought x86 to the big.LITTLE core arrangement. They've beat AMD to the punch on a number of key technologies, and while I still think AMD has the better mobile hardware it still feels like the desktop stuff is a toss-up. Server stuff... glances at Gaudi and Xeon, then at Nvidia ...let's not talk about server stuff.

A lot of hopes and promises are riding on 18A being the savior for both Intel Foundry Services and the Intel chips wholesale. If we get official confirmation that it's been cancelled so Intel can focus on something else then it will signal the end of Intel as we know it.


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phkahlerlast Tuesday at 5:25 PM

>> successfully brought x86 to the big.LITTLE core arrangement.

Really? I thought they said using e-cores would be better than hyper threading. AMD has doubled down on hyper threading - putting a second decoder in each core that doesn't directly benefit single thread perf. So Intels 24 cores are now competitive with (actually losing to) 16 zen 5 cores. And that's without using AVX512 which Arrow Lake doesn't even support.

I was never a fan of big.little for desktop or even laptops.

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selimthegrimlast Tuesday at 5:38 PM

What else would they focus on?

Tostinolast Tuesday at 5:02 PM

I mean they were on 14 NM until just about 2022, those memes didn't come from nowhere. And it's not even that long ago.

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