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seanmcdirmidtoday at 1:28 AM5 repliesview on HN

European colleges are incredibly thrifty, though. German universities for example can lack dorms, student unions, and professors lack TAs to grade homework (so homework isn't graded) and your entire grade depends on one final.

We could do this in the USA also, or perhaps even bother with online universities, except those are generally considered not very useful as degrees.


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nisatoday at 4:01 AM

I can't agree with your experience regarding German universities. Usually dorms are offered by the university but students usually just rent a room in the city.

I've had to submit weekly sheets that were graded in almost all courses and these qualify for the final exam (in STEM). There were two exercise groups with competent ta to ask questions..

What's missing is some kind of Disneyland experience, student unions also exist to some degree but it's more low key.

Not saying that German university is better or worse - I'm convinced it has it's own problems that only will get worse if nothing is changing but it's not like it's subpar and you are alone with your book.

arlorttoday at 5:38 AM

> your entire grade depends on one final

This isn't due to staff shortages, it's more of a difference in tradition/philosophy of teaching

reererertoday at 7:14 AM

That varies a lot between countries in EU. I live in Finland and my country has student unions, and professors are quite free to choose how they do the grading, so it's not always just one final exam per course. There are no dorms, but there is cheaper only-for-student housing. There are also really cheap state-subsidized meals in student restaurants on campus.

cultofmetatrontoday at 8:55 AM

the real issue in american universities is that the tuition largely goes to paying for administrators. they do no teaching and largly dont' add much value to the experience. if we capped administratiors to 1 per 5 professors, that would go a ong way towards paying for tutors and services that actually do help students.

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bigbacaloatoday at 6:17 AM

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