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Great. More tools to continue the enshitification of everything on the web.
Sora? More like r/ShittyHDR
Is it just me or do all the clips on the official page feel just creepily wrong? Everything seems so wrong, movements, proportions, light, color... everything's almost correct, but barely and noticeable not so. To me it looks like some horror from beyond, something inter-dimensional beings would dream up to simulate the idea of the something that's similar to reality. And it creeps me the fuck out.
People really worry about fake video and images and whatever but I have to say, the correct heuristics both already exist and have existed for a long time:
1. Anything on the internet can be fake
2. Trust is interpersonal, and trusting content should be predicated first and foremost on trusting its source to not deceive you
This is imperfect but also the best people ever really do in the general case, and just orders of magnitude better than most people are currently doing
The issue isn't models like this, it's that people are eating a ton of information but have been strongly encouraged to be credulous, and a lion's share of that training is directly coming from the tech grift industrial complex
I wouldn't even say this is the most compelling kind of tool for plausible-looking disinformation out there by a long shot for the record, but without actually examining why people are gullible there is no technology that's going to make people accepting fiction as fact substantially worse, or better, really. Scams target people on the order of their life savings every day and there are robust technologies and protocols for vetting communications, but people have to know to use them, care to use them, and be able to use them, for that to matter at all
co-develop := we are in f** around and f** out mode, please bear with us.
Seems as shitty as others.
Win me an Academy Award
OpenAI is a masterclass in pissing off paying customers.
I'm just about ready to cancel my ChatGPT subscription and move fully over to Claude because OpenAI has spit in my face one too many times.
I'm tired of announcements of things being available only to find out "No, they aren't" or "It's rolling out slowly" where "slowly" can mean days, weeks, or month (no exaggeration).
I'm tired of shit like this:
Sign ups are temporarily unavailable
We’re currently experiencing heavy traffic and have temporarily disabled sign ups. We’re working to
get them back up shortly so check back soon.
> We’re releasing it today as a standalone product at Sora.com to ChatGPT Plus and Pro users.
No you aren't, you might be rolling it out (see above for what that means) but it's not released, I'm a ChatGPT Plus user and I can't use it.
"a tool never made an artist"
so incredible ugly.
Yawn, there are literally 10 different apps and wannabe startups that do video generation and AI videos have already flooded social media. This doesn't look any better than what is and has been already available to the masses. OpenAI announced this ages ago and never did give people access, now competitors have already captured the AI generated video for social media slop market.
We have yet to see any kind of AI created movie, like Toy Story was for computer 3D animation.
OpenAI isn't a player in the video AI game, but certainly has bagged most of the money for it already (somehow).
Gentle reminder that it's important to boycott this kind of thing.
"We are currently experiencing heavy loads..."
from now on, no content is free from skepticism
I got lucky and got in moments after it launched, managed to get a video of "A pelican riding a bicycle along a coastal path overlooking a harbor" and then the queue times jumped up (my second video has been in the queue for 20+ minutes already) and the https://sora.com site now says "account creation currently unavailable"
Here's my pelican video: https://simonwillison.net/2024/Dec/9/sora/
One of the problems with a 10-month preannouncement is that the competition is ready to trash the actual announcement. Half an hour in, I already see half a dozen barely-concealed posts ranging from downplays to over-demands to non-user criticism.
Unless they drop something mega in the next few months can't help but think that openai's moat is basically gone for now at least.
Not available in the EU: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10250692-sora-supported-...
Though I like the novelty of AI generated content, it kind of sucks dead internet theory is becoming more and more prevalent. YouTube (and all of the web) is already being spammed with AI generated slop and "better" video/text/audio models only make this worse. At some point we will cross the threshold of "real" and "generated" content being posted on the web and there's no stopping that.
Pricing:
Plus Tier (20$/month)
- Up to 50 priority videos (1,000 credits)
- Up to 720p resolution and 5s duration
Pro Tier (200$/month)
- Up to 500 priority videos (10,000 credits)
- Unlimited relaxed videos
- Up to 1080p resolution, 20s duration and 5 concurrent generations
- Download without watermark
more info: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10245774-sora-billing-cr...
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Not impressive compare to the opensource video models out there, I anticipated some physics/VR capabilities, but it's basically just a marketing promotion to "stay in the game"...
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Anyone else find this stuff extremely distasteful? "Disrupting" creativity and art feels like it goes against our humanity.
I am so intrigued with the new sora release. I hope it turns out well.
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I can't wait for the safety features because I know there are those in society that would do bad things. But not me, though. I'd like the unlocked version.
That’s around more than 20+ VC-backed AI video generation startups destroyed in a microsecond and scrambling to compete against Sora in the race to zero.
Many of them will die, but may the AI slop continue anyway.
Hollywood's days are numbered.
If you are a creative in this industry, start preparing to transition to another industry or adapt.
Your boss is highly likely to be toying around with this.
The first entirely AI generated film (with Sora or other AI video tools) to win an Oscar will be less than 5 years away.
I hope somebody pays 100.000 pro subscriptions and uses AI to request Sora to generate videos 24/7. Maybe Elon?
Even if they use queues, I'm sure they are running at a loss and the GPU time is going to cost 100x more than what they charge.
Creating false demand for AI can easily bankrupt their business, as they will believe people actually want to use that crap for that purpose.
forced to finally release after that new open source model came out that was equal or better?