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> 1) Influence- TikTok gives the CCP significant direct influence over the views of Americans

More to the point: it removes the ability of the existing American establishment to monopolise the viewpoints presented to Americans.


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next_xibalba01/17/2025

Americans are already quite free to seek a broad range of domestic and foreign viewpoints. Chinese citizens, on the other hand, are not. At all.

The key point here is that an algorithm can invisibly nudge those viewpoints, and a foreign adversary controls the algorithm.

Insofar as your claim is that powerful people and institutions care most about power, I agree. It’s very telling that TikTok would shutdown instead of divest. (Meanwhile, U.S. companies have routinely taken the other side of the deal in China: minority stake joint ventures in which “technology transfer” is mandated. AKA intellectual property plundering.)

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throwawayq342301/17/2025

> More to the point: it removes the ability of the existing American establishment to monopolise the viewpoints presented to Americans.

There is no evidence this exists.

unethical_ban01/17/2025

It doesn't have to be either /or. You should be skeptical of US spy agency behavior, and still recognize the threat of Chinese influence via psyops algorithm to the United States.