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do_not_redeemyesterday at 5:21 PM1 replyview on HN

1. Is data encrypted in transit?

2. Can the user access their data at rest?

Those two things are entirely orthogonal.

I don't think you can extrapolate a trend from a few apps having bugs in their export code. Google Takeout is also notoriously buggy and they don't use E2E encryption. A more likely explanation is companies of all kinds don't care that much about export functionality, due to the incentives involved.


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jFriedensreichyesterday at 6:37 PM

you CAN extrapolate from nearly all e2e encrypted apps not giving a way to use the data. And there is a big difference between buggy google export features or facebook actively making export unusable to lock in users.