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echelon01/20/20252 repliesview on HN

This is how you do "Open" AI.

I don't see how OpenAI isn't cooked. Every single foundation model they have is under attack by open source.

Dall-E has Stable Diffusion and Flux.

Sora has Tencent's Hunyuan, Nvidia's Cosmos, LTX-1, Mochi, CogVideo.

GPT has Llama.

o1 has R1.

And like with R1, these are all extensible, fine tunable, programmable. They're getting huge ecosystems built up around them.

In the image/video space there are ComfyUI, ControlNets, HuggingFace finetrainers, LoRAs. People share weights and training data.

Open source is so much better to base a company on than a proprietary model and API.

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It looks there is no moat.


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parav01/20/2025

The moat might be tiny at the frontier level. But the mainstream still only knows about ChatGpt. OpenAI won consumer before others even started.

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fsndz01/20/2025

indeed there is no moat. Open source will win !

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