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luma01/20/20253 repliesview on HN

Use OAI to create synthetic data for your training, which is clearly what they are doing. This is why their models claim to be ChatGPT when asked.


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sangnoir01/21/2025

xAI did/does the same, but Grok is nowhere near as good. Perhaps a measure of talent is required to "copy" as well as DeepSeek.

nialv701/21/2025

that's not how this works. o1's thinking trace is hidden, and that's what's valuable here, not the output.

dcreater01/21/2025

So? Every other model maker is doing that. Including OAI

There's a lot more to making foundation models and Deepseek are very much punching well above their weight