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ML papers by Western universities barely touch on the problems that practitioners face.

The only papers I see that are routinely useful have half the authors having a .in or .cn email at the end with the rest having Indian and Chinese names in US institutions.

The only western papers which aren't extended advertisements for their company are from people who are making something for themselves.

For example the best paper on image classification I've ever seen was posted on a private discord and was about better labeling the parts of a vagina as part of a stable diffusion training pipeline.

I used the methods without change and got better than state of the art for document segmentation.


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rscho01/21/2025

Certainly, some countries have a more engineering-focused academic style. Western academia has always been more about advancing knowledge, which IMO is academia's mission.

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kleiba01/21/2025

All the foundational work that has lead up to the current practices in ML was done at universities. It's not like Google invented the transformer from scratch completely over night.