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crawfordcomeaux01/21/20254 repliesview on HN

Hello, I'm an organizer for a system to coordinate multiple mutual aid networks, many of which are only organizing by Signal & Protonmail exclusively because they think they're secure and private.

People who are doing work to help people in ways the state tries to prevent (like giving people food) rely on this tech. These are the same groups who were able to mobilize so quickly to respond to the LA fires, but the Red Cross & police worked to shut down.

This impacts the people who are there for you when the state refuses to show up. This impacts the future version of you who needs it.

Most people aren't disabled, yet. Doesn't mean they don't need us building infrastructure for if/when they become disabled.


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Evidlo01/21/2025

What groups did the police and Red Cross shut down? Any links?

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mmooss01/21/2025

Someone should tell anyone who seeks confidentiality that no email is secure. Use Signal and enable the data retention (i.e., automatic message deletion) feature. By itself that is not perfectly secure, but it's a start.

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lolinder01/21/2025

This is why I say that it's overly binary, not incorrect. Some people do have such needs, and Signal can and should fix this for those people.

cekanoni01/21/2025

people who think protonmail is secure it's to the same level as mail.yahoo.com :)