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“If a law is unjust a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so” - Thomas Jefferson


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DannyBee01/22/2025

1. There is no evidence jefferson ever said this

2. There is no evidence anyone else ever said this, either

The closest you get is MLK.

See https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jeffers...

But MLK also talks about moral obligation and not other forms of obligation.

He was not trying to create a free for all where everyone gets to decide which laws are okay or not, because he (and jefferson) were not complete morons.

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adriand01/22/2025

Is it unjust to prohibit the sale of illegal drugs, weapons, etc.? Society has good reasons for regulating certain goods. I regularly see people in my community who are enslaved by fentanyl and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. The society I live in decided to make selling it illegal. What is unjust about that?

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clueless01/22/2025

so we all individually can just decide a law is unjust? that'll be fun

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lq9AJ8yrfs01/22/2025

Maybe Thoreau? That's more authentic and gets at similar themes. On more than one level considering his circumstances and run-ins with law enforcement.

”Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison."

silverquiet01/22/2025

I wonder how this sentiment is going to play out in Luigi Mangione's trial.

mmcwilliams01/22/2025

Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner.

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Aloisius01/22/2025

He tried to have multiple people murdered.

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bdangubic01/22/2025

lol