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bdhcuidbebe01/22/20259 repliesview on HN

Will he get his possesions back then?

50,676 bitcoins, today valued at 5,3 billion USD.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/us-attorney-announces-h...


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arcticbull01/22/2025

No, generally a pardon does not eliminate any civil liability or entitle you to refunds once the assets have been transferred to Treasury. He would still have to answer Yes to having been convicted of a felony and he would still not be entitled to vote in states that do not permit felons to vote.

> Where a person has paid a monetary penalty or forfeited property, the consequences of a pardon depend in part on when it was issued. If a monetary fine or contraband cash has been transferred to the Treasury, a pardon conveys no right to a refund, nor does the person pardoned have a right to reacquire property or the equivalent in cash from a legitimate purchaser of his seized assets or from an informant who was rewarded with cash taken from the pardoned person before he was pardoned.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/presidential-pardons-sett...

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ktallett01/22/2025

I am not sure of the legality around his possessions but they are long gone. Even the ones stolen by FBI officers during the course of the investigation.

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bb8801/22/2025

If they were from the commission of a crime, then no.

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throwaway65765601/22/2025

Until now I oddly never questioned how any government could seize someone's bitcoin and how a government keeps the private keys of their crypto wallets secure.

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Scoundreller01/22/2025

Was that profits or users’ deposits?

notfed01/22/2025

I don't think it's crazy to suspect that Ulbricht knows a password or two and cut a deal here.

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pazimzadeh01/22/2025

those are not his possessions. user account balances are included in that sum

yapyap01/22/2025

obviously not.

misiti378001/22/2025

Hey may have other wallets...

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