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I think his original sentence was absolutely deserved—even though the charge of hiring a contract killer to assassinate his business competition may have been dropped, I think it's clear he did many things in the same vein. Even if you support his original pursuit of a free and open online marketplace, I think most people would agree he took it a bridge too far in the end.

That said, I do think he absolutely deserved to be released, not because he didn't deserve to be locked up in the first place, but because he's clearly been rehabilitated and has done great work during his time in prison. All that considered, ten years seems like a not unreasonable prison sentence for what he did. I hope he'll continue to do good when he's released.


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offsign01/22/2025

"he took it a bridge too far" is a massive trivialization.

The guy operated a marketplace for illegal goods in order to enrich himself. The illegality wasn't just incidental, it was literally his business model -- by flouting the law, he enjoyed massive market benefit (minimal competition, lack of regulation, high margins etc) by exploiting the arbitrage that the rest of us follow the rules.

Said a different way, he knowingly pursued enormous risk in order to achieve outsized benefits, and ultimately his bet blew up on him -- we shouldn't have bailed him out.

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bko01/22/2025

Ross Ulbricht was not sentenced for murder-for-hire charges.

Those allegations were used to deny him bail and influenced public perception, they were not part of his formal conviction or sentencing.

He was convicted on non-violent charges related to operating the Silk Road website, including drug distribution, computer hacking, and money laundering.

Does this change your opinion of sentencing being well-deserved?

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jyap01/22/2025

His original sentence was life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

So you can’t agree with the original sentence and then say he “absolutely deserved to be released.”

Without the chance of parole, a pardon from the president is one of the few ways he could get out of jail.

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nadermx01/22/2025

What has always sat odd with me regarding this, is we don't truly know the extent of the fbi's corruption in this. They stole, so it's not hard to imagine they planted evidence too.

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bdcravens01/22/2025

A 10 year prison sentence was apt. He did knowingly break the law (the marketplace defense doesn't really apply, since admins had to create the categories that were obviously illegal). A life sentence was ridiculous, and added punishment for unconvicted crimes, however likely, is a gross violation of constitutional protections.

reg_dunlop01/22/2025

I'm more interested in the subtext of the pardon.

Why this person specifically? And why at this time? Perhaps the discussion shouldn't be about the actual subject of the pardon, and perhaps more about the motives of the pardoner...

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soulofmischief01/22/2025

These two thoughts are incompatible though, aren't they? Politics and shenanigans around the case aside, the original sentence should have taken into account the possibility of rehabilitation. But he got life without parole.

That said, it was entrapment and everyone involved should be deeply ashamed and prosecuted. At least those two agents did get some wire fraud charges [0], but the entrapment angle got explored because the charges were dropped.

[0] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-federal-agents-charged...

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bhawks01/22/2025

The most prolific drug dealers who sold on silk road have served their sentences and are out of prison.

Ross was given a life sentence without possibility of parole an incomparable sentence in relation to all other parties that were involved.

77pt7701/22/2025

> has done great work during his time in prison

What work?

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daveguy01/22/2025

According to Reuters he was found guilty of "charges including distributing drugs through the Internet and conspiring to commit computer hacking and money laundering." In addition to running an illegal market bazaar for 4 years.

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zik01/22/2025

They dropped the contract killer charges - it appears that they were fabricated to try to turn public opinion against him and get him jailed. But as soon as they went to trial the charges were dropped for lack of evidence.

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62746701/22/2025

I personally find it ridiculous that people agree with the sentencing when you compare to sentences for tobacco industry practices, opioid epidemic, etc..

highwaylights01/22/2025

I don’t see why he deserves to be released.

So many people are in jail for crimes they didn’t commit, or for non-violent offenses that were committed out of hardship and a need to eat.

They gave evidence he tried to have someone killed, and that he saw confirmation it had been done.

Even if the accusation is somehow false and he didn’t order that killing, how many people did he actually kill just by running Silk Road?

I’m so sick of the narrative that aww shucks he’s a good kid from a good family and he just made a boo-boo and didn’t mean to build a multi-billion dollar illicit fortune from trafficking deadly drugs and outright poisons all over the world.

If this dude wasn’t a money-raised white kid from California no-one would care.

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belter01/22/2025

He might even run for President....

butlike01/22/2025

> I think his original sentence was absolutely deserved

The original sentence was two life terms. TO be pedantic, it sounds like you meant to say he deserved sentencing, but not the original sentence.

Spacemolte01/22/2025

What? - whatever nasty stuff happened because of those drugs being distributed and sold still falls back on that guy, and lets be real, some shitty stuff has to have happened with a direct link back to those drugs.

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jMyles01/22/2025

> I think it's clear he did many things in the same vein

It is clear as mud. We now know:

* At least four other people had access to the DPR account, by design.

* One of those people (the person whose murder was supposedly ordered, who has vehemently defended Ross!) asserts that he knew that Nob (who we know who was a DEA agent) was one of those four people.

* Nob is a serial liar, and is now in prison for having stole some of the bitcoin from this operation.

...what about that make clear that Ross was within a mile of this supposed 'murder for hire' business?

outside41501/22/2025

learn to read. he clearly was over sentenced.

LarsDu8801/22/2025

People have served more time for selling less drugs and attempting to murder fewer people than Ross Ulbricht did.

Just because he was decent with computers does not mean he should be busted out of jail.

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napierzaza01/22/2025

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pmarreck01/22/2025

Ross Ulbricht was widely regarded by friends and family as a fundamentally decent and idealistic person—if admittedly naïve about the implications of his actions. Those who knew him personally describe him as thoughtful, intelligent, and motivated by a vision of a freer and more equitable society. His philosophical motivations were rooted in libertarian ideals, particularly the belief that consenting adults should have the right to make decisions about their own lives, including the substances they consume.

I just learned that he was an Eagle Scout.

Not exactly the résumé of someone getting locked up and the key thrown away.

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