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godelski01/22/20251 replyview on HN

Fair enough. Though I suspect that it will be quite difficult to find the right words, even with substantial legalese. But I did want to make the note of caution. Especially as this even permeates into the public language, which in turn ends up being what politicians use because they just care about signaling instead of solving the actual problems...


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altairprime01/22/2025

“Decision processes can be analyzed and reproduced by a typical citizen without burdensome preconditions” is a nice simple way to put it. Neural network training is not accessible to a typical citizen (one that you might find on a jury) without burdensome effort involving terabytes of input data and hundreds of thousands of dollars, and a black-box pre-trained network does not satisfy the terms of replicable as it cannot be interpreted by analysis. Techies will object that ‘burdensome’ is poorly defined, but it serves to concentrate the subjective judgement into a measurable test that can be evaluated and justified by the judiciary; I expect that a judge would not find “download and execute an AI” to pass that test, but you could always explicitly analysis to be possible in a reasonable length of time without a computer. Similarly, language regarding ‘typical citizens’ is already well-known and understood in the field.

This is all moot if no one asks for it, though :) The exact wording of the deck chairs has no bearing on the course of the ship and all.

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