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roenxi01/22/20256 repliesview on HN

That sentiment calls for reflection - whoever ends up on top of the heap after the AI craze settles down is going to be someone that everyone objects to. Elon Musk was himself an internet darling up until he became wealthy and entrenched.

That said, this does look like dreadful policy at the first headline. There is a lot of money going in to AI, adding more money from the US taxpayer is gratuitous. Although in the spirit of mixing praise and condemnation, if this is the worst policy out of Trump Admin II then it'll be the best US administration seen in my lifetime. Generally the low points are much lower.


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whimsicalism01/22/2025

Nietzsche wrote about these phenomena a long time ago in his Genealogy of Morality. there will never be someone who reaches the top who doesn’t become an object of ire in modern Western culture.

mppm01/22/2025

> That sentiment calls for reflection - whoever ends up on top of the heap after the AI craze settles down is going to be someone that everyone objects to.

I agree in principle. And realistically, there is no way Altman would not be part of this consortium, much as I dislike it. But rounding out the team with Ellison, Son and Abu Dhabi oil money in particular -- that makes for a profound statement, IMHO.

infecto01/22/2025

> That sentiment calls for reflection - whoever ends up on top of the heap after the AI craze settles down is going to be someone that everyone objects to. Elon Musk was himself an internet darling up until he became wealthy and entrenched.

Trying to process this but doesn’t his fall from grace have more to him increasing his real personality to the world? Sometime around calling that guy a pedo. Not much bothers me but at the very least his apparent lack of decision making calls into question many things.

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JKCalhoun01/22/2025

> That sentiment calls for reflection - whoever ends up on top of the heap after the AI craze settles down is going to be someone that everyone objects to.

Did we see the same fallout from the space-race from a couple generations ago?

I don't think so — certainly not in the way you're framing it. So I guess I don't accept your proposition as a guarantee of what will happen.

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unethical_ban01/22/2025

Elon Musk was an internet darling when his top character trait was "space! EVs!". Then he went Kanye/alt-right and weaponized twitter. It didn't have to do with the fact he has a lot of money.

Many people dislike all billionaires, but some have escaped criticism more than others by successfully appearing to have some humanity left in them, like Gates and Cuban.

ghostzilla01/23/2025

This seems more like a move designed to frighten China -- or force them to spend money making LLMs -- then an actual threat. The clues are that Trump ceremonially blessed the deal but did not promise money (SoftBank et al will, supposedly), and then Musk said that's all fake because SoftBank doesn't have the money, and Altman countered that Musk should not be butthurt and should put America first. Who does that? I'm thinking, no one who has something real on his hands.